Just highlighting DocD’s contributions in the Neil Gaiman thread starting here:
Absolutely disgusting. Well sure the women said no. But they didn’t “say no over and over.”
And it was only one who said it, aside from all of the others who said it. And they didn’t go to the police, aside from the ones who did and nothing happened from it. But other than that, there’s no evidence.
Surprise, surprise
Poster with a long history (it’s even brought up in the first couple posts in this thread) of jumping to conclusions without reading sources and making misogynistic posts …continues to jump to conclusions without reading sources and making misogynistic posts.
His entire life represents such a sad, pointless waste of potential
I was looking for the “What were you thinking?” thread having forgotten that he has earned his own personal log.
C’mon people, it’s not like Neil Gaiman did something truly outrageous like featuring smoking in his works!
I started out reading his posts in the Gaiman thread on the assumption that he was in denial because no one wants to believe that an author or artist whose work they love is a monster. I certainly know that feeling.
But after a while and the increasingly desperate rationalizations, I began to wonder if we were drifting into “protests too much” territory.
Really hope I’m wrong about that.
You’re not.
On most topics he’s just kind of annoying and doggedly wrongheaded.
But on gender issues, he’s an absolute turd.
I think it’s like the Marion Zimmer Bradley or Whedon things - people are just very emotionally invested in their parasocial relationships with those creators, and threatening the sanctity of that with unpleasant truths is yucking their yum. Nothing more sinister than that needed.
I know enough Gaiman fans IRL to be pretty sure that’s it.
Fuck benefit of any doubt. DD has been posting misogynistic crap on this board for literal decades now. This latest idiocy is simply part and parcel of the same thing. No doubt aided by admiration for a favored author, but not requiring it at all.
Lest anybody forget, this is the same poster that started this thread linked early on in this pitting that boiled down to “maybe no doesn’t always mean no”
There’s misogyny, and then there’s what Gyrate was hinting at. Not the same thing. Not gonna argue Deth isn’t a raging misogynist and rape culture denialist, but that doesn’t mean he is himself a rapist.
Again - I hope not. But there’s a lot of frantic deflection going on in that thread, for whatever reason.
The beloved author/misogyny intersection is enough explanation, without the ugly accusation of Deth being a rapist, mate.
If you can’t remember, go read Broomstick’s defense of MZB. Now ask yourself if you think Broomstick is a kiddie-diddler for that? No, of course not. So why this for Deth?
Because he kept claiming it was consensual. And I don’t remember the MZB discussion.
This is not a hill I was planning on dying on, but he seems really emotionally invested in Gaiman not being judged a rapist.
That’s just Deth, Dething on a hill, as far as I can tell. He only read a commentary on the Vulture article, not the thing itself, but when did actual facts ever stop him?
Have you just discovered DrD? He can get really emotionally invested over any odd thing. So many times it is hard to enumerate them. Take what started this thread as an example.
Exactly what I was gonna say. I started this thread because he was sneering at me for seeing racism in Gary Gygax’s obviously racist D&D stuff from the seventies, because he enjoys D&D and can’t imagine that something he enjoys was created by someone with serious flaws.
This is part and parcel of that whole thing.
I’m just waiting for him to post that he believes Gaiman because he’s had a book signed once, like how bumping into Gygax at a couple cons meant he saw into his soul and saw no trace of racism there.
Well, you know, Doug always said he was a good judge of character.
Just adding weight to @MrDibble’s point, but earlier in the mentioned thread, DD specifically mentioned that American Gods was his very favorite book. So, despite his claims in the same thread that Gaiman’s actions won’t change his feelings about the works (which is fair, and I share it to some extent) he’s in deeeeeep denial to preserve his feelings about his favorite.