I pit DrDeth

Basically, DD runs closer to the recalcitrant asshole end of the spectrum than the misunderstood genius. And it’s not close

Wait. Aren’t artistic choices a definite decision making process?

Yes, I believe my artistic whims(as a professional muralists) were decisions I made. Sometimes I had a few guidelines as to the theme of the mural, but mostly they just set me to the job.

Don’t really think too much about Dr. Deth. I gather he’s mouthy over in politics and gets on y’all’s nerves.

Seriously were worried about the misspelling of it’s,

“It’s”, It’s?

This is too weird to be believed.

Are you sure you didnt mean to type “this’s” in that last sentence?

(My mother is a retired English teacher, I was brought up with strict grammar, punctuation and spelling. So much so, that the American spelling of “color” et al. without a “u” is, to copy the idiom, a sharp stone in my sock, right next to the one which is inappropriate abbreviations/renditions of long established words. Therein lies the horrors of Newspeak, as interpreted by ChatGPT in sonnet form:

)

No, seriously we are not worried about that. I’m personally not worried about any of it. The annoyance expressed by some however is about an apparent pervasive lack of typical common apostrophe usage (“dont“), apparently that key doesn’t work for him …. except to use it incorrectly in “it’s”.

And I get why that annoys them. Which possibly is the “artistic intent”? The knowledge that it’s annoying is its purpose? :slightly_smiling_face:

I’ve been, for the majority of my adult life, absolutely torn about capital punishment.

I’ve Certainly Heard The Cases For Each Side, Though.

For fuckin’ real. When I teach my “intro to grammar and punctuation” lesson to fourth graders (takeaway: unless there’s a super-good reason for it, use conventional spelling, punctuation, and word use in your formal writing), I’ll often pull out my favorite e.e. cummings poem as a counterexample:

We talk about how it’s initially incomprehensible, and how it breaks all kinds of rules all over the place–but that its initial incoherence means you sit with it and puzzle with it, and the more you puzzle, the more you notice. The poem gives me chills every time I read it.

THAT’s how you break orthographic and punctuation conventions.

Without your endorsement I would not have just spent the minute or three to ponder it just now. Not a poetry person generally.

Yeah. That is pretty good. At several levels.

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le
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one
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iness

Much easier to read in a better font.

Worth reading a little bit of the poem’s analysis; there’s stuff I didn’t pick up on at first.

I think it’s funny that on wiki (at least on my screen), the horizontal version is broken up between two lines.

Thanks for this explanation. It’ll help me be more understanding when my brain does a needle scratch while reading some of your posts. I have a sister with similar issues, but being a sister, I can give her a load of shit about it.

Love that cummings poem! I’m impressed that you teach it to your 4th graders, @Left_Hand_of_Dorkness . What a great way to teach a lesson and stretch their brains at the same time!

The guild of Greengrocers crosses regional, cultural and linguistic lines!
Apostrophes don’t have much use in Spanish but they cope using unnecessary quotes, for example you can see signs with the “price” of “Naranjas”, “Manzanas” and “Bananas” and wonder if they are are really Oranges, Apples and Bananas and if the price is really a price.

Although, the I - l ambiguity might also have been part of the intended design.

It definitely is part of the poem. One reading is, more or less, “Loneliness – a leaf falls”. But another reading is, “One, a leaf falls, one, one, one-ness,” or, “I, a leaf falls, one, I, I-iness.” And the poem is shaped like the path of a falling leaf, which is also the shape of the word I and the number 1. It’s the multiple meanings expressed through words, wordplay, and visuals that makes it such a brilliant poem. Changing the font removes a lot of layers.

I love “concrete poetry”. Where the words on the page have shapes and convey movement.

The cummings poem makes your eye follow down like a leaf falling. Brilliant.

e.e.cummings wrote poetry in a way that resembled metaphorical stereograms, but on a much deeper level. I’m not a poetry fan but even I can appreciate how cool his stuff is.

And then jump up and back down again, as though the leaf caught a breeze for a moment.

So Dr Deth’s posts are just like it! Oh. That’s eyes rolling …. :grin:

Doc apparently wants to change the definition of “engine” in order to dismiss Hero’s being the first to convert heat into mechanical force and motion.

(“Tiffany Effect” thread, IMHO, post 80.)

Speaking of Greeks, I heard about this bloke named Sisyphus.

Dunno why this thread suddenly brought him to mind