Absolutely true. But “par for the course” makes criticizing a particular instance a real uphill battle. The offender can easily shrug it off and carry on or even try to flip it back on the accuser for singling him out.
In the end, I agree with you. Good answers with an attitude are ok, jokes are ok, flat out condemnation or unadorned insults are not. They are not nice in the rest of the forums and are unacceptable in GQ in particular.
I don’t expect The Powers That Be to take cards on the matter and start modding the offending answers. It is left to this kind of pitting to shape forum etiquette and serve as a wake up call to the offenders.
I applaud the OP for this pitting and for not doing it in the thread.
Maybe the Par For The Course issue deserves its own thread.
So I wish I had gone into the detail that Rubystreak did in her latest post (#80). She said everything I was coming back to answer, and more. Thanks R.
Okay, I must be whooshed, because no one else has called this bullshit. I think I’ve agreed with everything WhyNot has said except I can’t believe this story. Unless you are the girl, the bf, or the doctor, you don’t know what happened.
Okay, i’m sorry, I should have clarified my disbelief. It’s regarding two main points.
That a girl can get pregnant through anal sex.
That a girl would remain vaginally abstinent at the request of her father, only to be cornholed repeatedly by her high school bf (who never EVER pushes for vaginal sex), admits this to her father the virgin pregnancy, and then the doctor gives the results of the vaginal examination to the father, all while the girl shares this with her boss (WhyNot). Thank you for my longest run-on sentence ever.
Okay, here is your quote: (With mine bolded)
So I hope I clarified. If you were exaggerated some points of your story (she was an employee, her father “dragged her”, doctor hypothesized), then fine, I don’t mind. It’s the internet and you were trying to say something to make a point. And I don’t mean to act like one of those nitpicking bastards, but this just doesn’t seem to wash with me.
Everyone is scoffing at this, but you can use the truth, not lies, to convince kids that sex is not something they want to mess with until they are in a more self-sufficient place in life. I think there should be a high school class that teaches kids not only exactly how the male and female reproductive systems work, but also how each method of birth control works and why they all can fail if you don’t use them right. If kids are going to have sex, they should use 2 methods, and they should understand both fully and why they are using them. Also, teach about veneral diseases in detail, using pictures if possible. Teach kids, especially boys, about how sucky it is to pay child support (that lesson could be called, “When 17% Ain’t 17% for 21 Years: Keep It In Your Pants, Son”). Then also teach them about credit scores, bankruptcy, daily compounded interest, and the burdens of personal debt (“Why Visa Owns the World: A Primer for Young Spendthrifts”). Yes, scare them into wanting to stay children as long as possible. There is no need to lie or cook stats: the real world is hard enough for adults, and being a grown up is pretty overrated anyway.
Back to the subject at hand. I believe the OP to be a sock and therefore possibly a troll. He has posted under this current username, PeachPit, and something like unbrokenpp2. I’m not a troll stalker, so I’m not going to search for previous threads. But I beleive he has been banned with more than one username.
That’s why I stopped reading the “accidental sex” thread when I saw the OP. Unless he explains himself, all of you are wasting your time discussing him.
Let’s try this one more time just for you lowbrass. Spit out the gum and pay attention. (others, please excuse us) Abstinence works. In fact, Abstinence is the ONLY 100% effective method of (male) birth control known (other than bilateral orchidectomy, which we have already rejected). Non-Abstinence, that is, the absence of abstinence, doesn’t work. (see Kozmic’s post- #90 for a graphic representation.) In fact, I would bet all pregnancies result from practicing “non-abstinence”.
IF a kid is 6 weeks away from entering college, and does not want to run ANY risk of having his girlfriend become pregnant, his best choice for birth control is ABSTENANCE. (clear ‘nuf).
Now run along and ride your bicycle, and don’t cross the busy street.
Okay, now YOU pay attention, Morgenstern; what we’re trying to impress on you is that no matter how effective abstinence is, it doesn’t work because horny teenagers don’t abstain. While we’re at it, do you think you could pass that message on to your POTUS, cause I don’t think he gets that, either. What do you call an “abstaining” teenager? A parent! What do you call a teenager who uses the withdrawal method? A parent! What do you call any teenager who uses birth control methods unreliably? A parent! Of course teenagers should not be having unprotected sex and having babies, but they are, and they do. Wake up and smell the reality.
What the US (and Canada, too) needs is to shift the whole paradigm regarding sexuality and pregnancy and birth control, but I’m not holding my breath waiting for that to happen. Meanwhile, the best we can do is deal with teenage sexuality as the reality it is, not the fantasy that parents and politicians wish it would be.
While I was a sexually active teen, as were MOST of my friends, I know a number of 20+ year old virgins (some from lack of opportunity, some from choice). Lots of teenagers do abstain. Some manage to do it until marriage in their mid-20s.
SOME horny teenagers do abstain. Which does not mean I want to put all my eggs in the abstainence basket, but that its unfair to those that do manage to hold true to their intent in the face of raving hormones, our permissive culture, and horniness to claim they are all doomed to teenage pregnancy.
I think Morgenstern is correct that actual abstinence, defined as not having sex of any kind*, is 100% effective as a method of birth control. The problem is the side effects, which include being an insufferable asshole.
