I Pit HOBBY LOBBY

LOL. Likely not :frowning:

Must be why they bugger altar boys: no chance of conception or abortion.

In fact, don’t women sometimes naturally “abort” zygotes? Meaning the egg gets fertilized but for one reason or another never implants? The morning after pill and birth control are literally preventing (not-really-)baby killing!

I was a bit suprised oh so many moons ago when I first heard the term spontaneous abortion to mean miscarriage. It’s possible for a fertilized egg to be discarded by the woman’s body for a variety of reasons. That leads me to believe that the logical conclusion for the fanatics–thankfully, it hasn’t reached this stage–is to demand an investigation of each and every woman each and every time she has a menstrual discharge to determine (a) if there is, in fact, a fertilized ovum present and (b) the cause of the ovum’s discharge from the body.

It hasn’t reached that extreme yet.

I was actually under the impression that a miscarriage required a fetus to die late-term. It turns out it’s actually the opposite, apologies.

It’s difficult to even discover accurate statistics on the rate at which such an event occurs, but last I looked, estimates ranged from 20-90% of all conceptions auto-aborting.

Some design”, as Hitchens used to say.

How do you know that all of those zygotes would not grow up to be serial killers, huh?

Well, a lot of them have chromosomal abnormalities, so they wouldn’t have grown up at all, no matter what.

Justice refuses to block morning-after pill rule

http://news.yahoo.com/justice-refuses-block-morning-pill-230847527.html

Vinyl Turnip, final wolf-pup!

The letter (and pretty much all of this ilk) makes it sound as if Hobby Lobby was going to be required to carry Plan B packets at their checkout counters… instead of pay for employee insurance that takes care of whatever health needs the employee has. Absolutely night and day situations, but you’d never know that from the self-serving, anti-tax-based whining.

Me, too, but only because I never even heard of it before I saw this thread. I guess they don’t have any branches in Florida.

They do. There are at least two in Orlando.

Or stop offering health insurance to their employees.

Which may very well be their next step.

Then what?

Regards,
-Bouncer-

Bankruptcy, I should hope.

And they’re going to defy the court order requiring them to provide coverage for emergency contraception.

While I think Green is being a world-class douchebag for his holier-than-thou posturing, I think this is actually a good lawsuit because it will help to force the discussion about the line between a religious institution and a business, which is something that needs to be discussed.

Aren’t insurance companies required to cover contraception, or am I mistaken about that?

If insurance companies are required, then how can an employer defy the law? How can they purchase health insurance that doesn’t cover contraception?

Insurance companies are required to cover contraception, and employers are required to provide that coverage. There is, however, an exemption for churches. Note that the law says churches, not “businesses whose owners claim that they should be exempt because they’re Christians.” Basically, Hobby Lobby is trying to have it both ways. They’re trying to be a privately-owned company operated for profit, while claiming that they merit a religious exemption.

The misunderstandings are the grey areas that include religion-owned entities that are not specifically churches, like Catholic universities and health systems; and whether the contraception provision violates personal religious liberty, which is the crux of the Hobby Lobby case. The former is worth discussing; the latter is not.

Great, now I feel bad for beating up my postman so much.

Fines.