I Pit LHOD and his thread re: AA in schools

Ahh. Very nearly. Rand Rover is a hypocrite in the way everyone else who calls people on emotionally based arguments on this message board, with the possible exception of Sentient Meat, is.

I understand Rand Rover’s point, but I think that by the evidence of black women in the profession it’s not that black men are incapable of becoming teachers, they just for some reason don’t desire to become teachers to the same degree as people of other genders or ethnicities. While discriminatory hiring practices are bad on their face, I think that it’s a matter of encouragement. But then I can see why people don’t want to become teachers when the salary they are likely to make is comparable to that of a garbage man who doesn’t have to deal with 5 years of school and $ 100k of debt.

Carefully remove your head from your ass and read the thread, and the cites that say having a race and gender matched role model is beneficial to students. Now explain to me why hiring race and gender matched teacher is not just finding the right people for the job, and is in fact “fucking retarded without any merit whatsoever.” I’ll be waiting.

Because casting choices for a movie are different for what should be obvious fucking reasons and no one is suggesting that they are different honestly, they are just trying to get a cheapass ‘gotcha’. So I respectfully disagree with your diagnosis of who has their head up their ass. There is a head up and ass between the two of us, and it is certainly NOT me in this case.

You don’t even think that’s a good fucking example you just want to say, “See you support discriminatory hiring practices in one case! Pwn n00b!!!”

It’s stupid, and dishonest.

Who died and made you Starving Artist? :stuck_out_tongue:

[Bugs] Of course you realize, this means war? [/Bugs]

Depends on your definition of role model.

I personally think that every adult is obligated to live their life in such a manner that any child would want to be like that adult. In other words, you’re a living example of being a decent human being.

God help us if Rand’s that.

Well, if he isn’t, I’m sure he can at least pay a few people to tell him that he is.

That’s an odd standard. If I wanted to follow that rule I’d be required to quit my job and tryout for the yankees or learn to play guitar.

Or, ya know, you could have a decent personality, be fun to be around and be the kind of person that people liked.

You’ll probably have more luck trying to be a rock star.

He’s got a kid.

Nah. It’s a fair bet he’s going to be busy reminding the kids he is every other hour. After telling them about his gold plated doormat, of course.

ETA :

I *knew *Darwin was full of shit.

I don’t think you understand his statement, or at least, you didn’t understand it in the way he intended…

Unless you’re admitting your role models when you were a kid where baseball and guitar players?

I’ve been told by folks in Boston that noone that plays for the Yankees is a good person, and the only people who play guitar are hippies, rock stars, and pick up artists. No decent people on that list either.

Huh? I think I’m gonna need a reply that makes more sense before I can even respond. Explaining just what the fuck your problem is would be a pretty big help, too.

Psst Cisco:

Don’t get in the way of the** Rand Rover **/ mswas cage match! I paid good money for these seats!

Aight, since I don’t know who the fuck either one of these guys is, I guess there’s a lot going on in this thread that I’m not going to understand.

Well, we’re not second-handers, deriving our self-worth through others.
Why are you, Toohey?

Are you a self-made man?

Ok, then maybe you can explain what the relevance of asking about Michael Jordan being played by a white man has in this argument.

Now if Rand Rover actually commits and says that its a sign of unfair discrimination well then I’ll eat my hat.

But it seems to me to be a bit of irrelevant trivia designed to elicit a response. Maybe I completely misread it’s purpose.