I Pit LHOD and his thread re: AA in schools

I get it, consider your back patted.

Somebody needs to update this thread in ATMB to include the term “RandRolled.”

As if his piles of Monopoly money had any bearing on his worth to society. Who gives a fuck??

I call bullshit. Even your screen name denotes (one of) your role models. Sociologist Robert Merton coined the term:

Right, you are raising the issue of just what a “role model” is exactly, which is a good issue to raise. I had anywhere from zero to a couple hundred or more role models depending on how the term is defined. However, LHOD isn’t interested in that discussion either. Like those that kept Jim Crow going, discriminating on the basis of race fits his prejudices, so there’s no room for facts and debate.

Obviously at least five times what a worthless pobe such as yourself paid.

-Joe

Funny, that was nearly exactly my thought on cites - I was actually thinking “evolution with a Fundie.”

Wonderful - something you can actually prove.
As I’ve been playing this opening at master level for over 35 years, I take a particular interest.
Please supply some of your games.

(It’ll be interesting to see how you deal with the Normal variation and whether you follow Kasparov’s 7. Be2.)

Or is this just more bllsht?

And here I thought Gordon Gecko was an unbelievably over the top caricature.

Just shows to go you.

This should be interesting. I guess it’s your move, RR.

So, **Rand Rover **- to be clear: you see no value in “role models” that are similar in appearance and/or background who might show young people who might be at risk that it is possible to avoid problems and end up with a more satisfying life that also contributes more to the common good. I think your point is that anyone, regardless of appearance or background, can serve in that role. Is that it? And this is based on Ayn Rand stuff - Objectivism?

Just want to be clear.

You both have it exactly backwards–im saying we should look at the evidence and LHOD is saying to just trust him. Who’s the fundie then?

But the evidence says race and gender matched role models are beneficial.

Please. I never get to play 7. Be2 because motherfuckers KNOW not to play 5…Be7 against me.

:rolleyes: We have a link to one study indicarting that (which was not provided by LHOD, BTW). What we don’t have is any indicartion that a race and gender matched teacher is beneficial. You can’t just take that study and slap omn your own definition of role model and declare victory.

Also, the main point of this thread is that LHOD didn’t bother to prove up any of his assertions. If someone links to a study showing that race and gender matched teachers are beneficial, that point still stands.

No. That might have been what you wanted the point of this thread to be. But it clearly isn’t.

Maybe you can write someone a check so that you get the kind of thread you want?

This is a pit thread. I’m pitting LHOD for making assertions in GD that he doesn’t even attempt to support. The substance of those assertions are secondary. On the substance, I don’t think we should take it on faith that a black male teacher would cause better outcomes than would any other teacher. And I don’t think that LHOD’s prejudices should be used to make racially discriminatory hiring decisions. That’s pretty much it. I’m not sue rand has anything to do with any of this.

I don’t think that’s entirely accurate. It’s not that LHoD isn’t interested in having that discussion, it’s that he’s not interested in having that discussion with you. If someone who was not a raging asshole had raised the subject, I have little doubt that he’d be willing to entertain it.

We’re still waiting on those games glee asked for. And the evidence of your supposed invincibility. Shouldn’t be all that hard for someone who has such disdain for the making of assertions and not proving them.

I’ve seen the evidence. I don’t have to trust LHOD because we’ve just been through this with my school district and LHOD isn’t telling me information I haven’t gotten from other people I trust.

So LHOD had me specifically in mind when he didn’t cite anything in the OP? I realize I’m popular here, but you are taking it a bit too far.