I pit my heartless family

I’m aware that in the following screed I keep switching back and forth from a narrative to directly addressing the people in question, but I am just too weary to go through and change it. Rest assured that when I say “you,” I do NOT mean you, the good people of the SDMB:
Just as none of us can possibly imagine what it’s like inside my brother Michael’s head, (he is an actual genius) I don’t think any of you can really understand what it’s like inside of mine. People tend to naturally assume that the people around them are pretty much on the same level they are. That is part of the tragedy of this situation, in that people of below-average intelligence continually made assumptions about me based on ignorance and their own limited experience with the world, and with a lack of emotional wisdom that is heartbreaking.

I believe also that, because of my parents’ highly dysfunctional upbringings (not to mention that of my brother’s wife) (all of them sexually abused by their fathers, and blaming their mothers) no one in my birth family seems to be capable of loving in a healthy way except myself, and perhaps my son. My parents never, ever hugged us, and never, ever said “I love you” to us. Not once, throughout my childhood. I know my son used to love me as fiercely as I loved him; I fear that his being doomed to the same cold, conditional regard that passes for love with my parents, coupled with the apparently myriad lies that he was told about me, have turned my beautiful smiling boy into another pain-wracked dysfunctional damaged human, and for that I revile my parents eternally. Damn it, I wanted to raise him differently, with love!

–And because they are not emotionally equipped to love others in a healthy adult way, they were tragically unable to have the least idea of the terrible, terrible pain that their toxic vengeful actions caused to my son and me. I know that if my mother had loved me the way that I love my son, she could never have done what she did. There are a thousand ways to step into a situation with love and respect, and effect changes for the better if you feel that those you love are going through difficult times. But only a sadly twisted mind would think that this is best accomplished by spewing hate at a kind, ethical, altruistic person who has only ever loved you and never done you (or her son) any harm, by kidnapping a 10-year-old boy and telling him that his mother didn’t love him, flatly refusing to let her see him despite the fact that she did nothing ever to harm or mistreat him, and by lying egregiously under oath to get your way. Oh wait, that’s right, you don’t have to lie under oath in probate court, because you never properly take the stand. “I swear that the foregoing is true and correct to the best of my knowledge” doesn’t mean much if you aren’t too bright to begin with, and appallingly ignorant on top of it.

I feel so weary even thinking about going over the details yet again, but I know I must. My longtime boyfriend, with whom my son and I were living, began to develop mental health issues and ultimately threw us out at a time when my son had about a month of school left. We went to stay with a friend because you have to live somewhere, especially with a child. However, my son started hanging out with some kids I did not like or trust, and skipping school to do what all day I don’t know. I was about a month away from getting a Section 8 certificate, whereafter he and I would have no housing instability ever again. Since it was summertime, I thought he would be much safer spending the summer with my parents in San Bruno. Lots of kids spend the summer visiting their grandparents, except in our family where caring for a child is considered an odious duty and a huge imposition. Instead of coming to me with any reservations or concerns about my parenting, my mother freaked out and sent him far away where I couldn’t possibly get to him. I should have called the police right away, and none of this would have happened. It IS a crime, you know. My son said to me recently, “You couldn’t take care of me because of your lifestyle,” and I was absolutely stunned. We were homeless! For a couple of months! It wasn’t a “lifestyle choice!” And I knew quite well it was not working trying to look after him properly while staying on someone’s couch – that’s WHY I sent him to San Bruno, with my parents, as soon as school was out. A safe place, with people I trusted, ho ho. I knew that I would have my certificate before school resumed in September. I was trying to do the responsible thing, and my perverse and whacked-out mother somehow turned it into the complete opposite, the height of irresponsibility. Her clueless, yokel-like picture of what I and my “lifestyle” must be like in scary bad Oakland is so far, far off the mark that it is laughable. All of you with your smug, pre-packaged, childish and naive ideas about me, and you couldn’t be further from the truth. My son had been recommended for gifted classes the next year, yet my parents had him tested for learning disabilities, because “he must be stupid growing up with all those poor folks and black folks!”

Honestly, I have to wonder what you guys were doing the whole time I was growing up, because it doesn’t seem as though you were paying attention at all. I am not a libertine, a manipulator, a liar, a drugged-out spacecase, a criminal, a harridan, an alcoholic, or a fuckup. If you asked any twenty of my longtime friends, they would tell you the same. It was only a few months after my parents took away my son because they felt I was such a “terrible mother,” that my good friend hired me to be the nanny of her infant daughter for the next five years, and I doubt that she (or her daughter herself) would share your views on my parenting skills. What my mother told everyone (which I find out only now, after thirteen years!), that the only reason I couldn’t be with my son is because I “refused a drug test,” is a dirty lie. The judge refused to allow them to test me, because there had been no incidents, no wrongdoing that anyone could point to, and no contact with the police or other authorities. In other words, just her paranoid fantasy with not one iota of proof. Motion denied. I swear by all I hold sacred that this is true.

Why would anyone in good conscience say a thing like that? My god, what must my son have thought of me all this time? The ONLY reason (we had joint custody, after all) that I was not with him is that they continually ignored court orders, and refused to let me see him or even call him on the phone! Then they told him that I didn’t call him or see him because I didn’t care!

You destroyed my happiness when you all did that; and now that my son has just told me that he thought it was the right thing to do, my heart is completely broken. Having him here living with me this past year, now that he is grown and free, is the only thing that had started to heal the unspeakable pain in my heart from what you did to us. But I have always assumed that he of all people understood the magnitude of the grievous wrong done to us, because he was right there and it had to hit him worst of all. To find out that your years of lies, violating court orders by denying me my visitation time, (and then violating new court orders by continuing to deny me visitation time even after I was forced to take you back to court repeatedly) finally accomplished your goal, convincing him that he was somehow the victim of MY parenting, all of my fierce undying love, our close bond and my unending joy in his very existence – that it was all of that on my part that did him harm, rather than the relentless guilt tripping, cold shouldering, distrust and vindictiveness that is my family’s parenting style – this is more than I can take. One of my older friends tells me that my parents’ goal all along was to “break” me, and their hateful actions the result of my refusal to be broken, refusal to bow down and say that black is white, say that good is bad, say that they were right. Well you have finally succeeded in this goal, but not in the way you wanted. You never broke my mind or my spirit, but you have finally broken my heart. I have, overnight, become bitter – the one thing I have been bound and determined all my life to never, ever be, no matter what. What could ever motivate even an indifferent grandparent to say such hurtful, destructive things to my poor little boy? That kind of pain doesn’t just go away. How do they even sleep at night?

I can’t say that I want to die – for I do not – but I simply cannot see any joy in life for me from this point forward.

brujaja

I really have no wise words for your situation, but I couldn’t read your awful story without stopping to say - what a horrible situation. And you are so right to feel betrayed by the people who ought to have had your (and your son’s) best interests at heart.

Thank you, Aspidistra.

I am so sorry. I hope that you and your son find a better path forward.

Thank you, ddsun.

Ha ha, I guess you know all about Oakland, eh? It’s really a beautiful place.

brujaja, I wish, when I read stories like yours, that I could give you what I got from my parents, all the love and respect. Even though we weren’t, or aren’t, exactly the same kind of people, having all the same views, they help or helped me when needed, give adbice, but let me live my life and make my own decisions.

I’m sorry your parents weren’t mine, and I wish things had gon differently for you, I’m so sorry they haven’t. I’ll keep you on my prayer list.

If it’s any consolation I think you have an incredible sense of humor. Those Cthulhu carols, remember?:smiley: Here’s one Doper who thinks you are a great person!

Baker, that is such a very kind and sweet thing to say. There is a particularly beautiful kind of meaning in the reaching out of people who have never met you, but care just the same.

I’m so sorry. I can’t imagine how painful this is for you.

I don’t have any children, but I’ve had to deal with toxic parenting for far too long. I ended my relationship with my abusive, mentally ill mother this summer. And I’ve been thinking, it’s all well and fine… but what about when we have children? Will I be able to hold out then? I know the guilt will be crushing.

It may be some very small consolation but you’ve galvanized me in my decision to keep my mother and other toxic relatives away from my children. It is exactly this kind of harm I wish to keep from my future children. That risk of their harm is not worth any measure of guilt or pain I would feel from shutting her out.

That’s not intended to come across as in any way blaming you for this situation but rather to say that I empathise with the value you placed on protecting your son in light of all you endured personally. Your courage to put your story out there has made a difference in my life.

I wish you both healing moving forward. I hope your son soon begins to understand the truth, and you can move on together.

This is pretty heartbreaking. Ultimately, though, your son is lucky to have such a wonderful parent as you and one day, hopefully soon, he’ll know it, too.

That sucks, brujaja. I just hope that now that your son is older he’ll come to realize that you’re still his loving and caring mom and not the monster your parents made you out to be.

Not judging, just trying to understand the situation, so bear with me.

Why would you send your son to such a toxic environment while you were getting back on your feet? You knew what your parents were, was there no place safer that you could have sent him for the summer?

I hope you and your son can get some counseling and begin to heal.

I am also trying to understand the situation.
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[li]You and your son were living with your boyfriend. (I assume the father is not in the picture.)[/li][li]Your boyfriend became mentally ill, and kicked you both out.[/li][li]So you were homeless, and went to stay with a friend. (What kind of friend was this - another boyfriend?)[/li][li]Your son started skipping school and hanging out with people of whom you do not approve.[/li][li]So you sent him to stay with your parents, who were both sexually abused by their fathers as children. (Is the grandfather dead?) [/li][li]Now you want him to come back and live with you. (Are you still staying with the friend? Do you have the Section 8 voucher you mentioned?)[/li][li]Your son does not want to come back and live with you in your current situation, whatever it is.[/li][li]The court is backing up your mother, because she lied under oath about you refusing a drug test. (Was there anything else that she alleged?)[/li][/ul]Is that accurate?

Regards,
Shodan

I’m glad you’ve finally reconnected with your son, and I’m so sorry that the two of you didn’t get to grow up in a healthy environment. If I understand correctly, your parents had him for 13 years? Did you get to have any contact with him at all during that time?

I don’t follow the story either, grandparents generally can’t just take over the custodial rights of the parents without a lot of time, money, and the parents usually have to have done some pretty bad things, this is a generalization but its not something that easy to do. Its also unclear how long your son lived with them, this went on for years? How long exactly?

As far as my own parents go, my biggest disappointment is that they seem to have little to no interest in my children and generally make up excuses at the last minute to get out of spending time with them or to leave after a 20 minute “visit”, it hurts, but the other set of grandparents fill the void with lots of time, love, and affection, they see them almost every day. I generally don’t even bother anymore inviting my own parents to family occasions because inevitably its a big letdown.

Spice Weasel: Thank you. It’s the last thing I would ever have expected when posting this, but it really means something to me that at least someone else may have been helped by it. By the time your potential child is old enough to ask about their grandmother, they will probably also know what a “bad person” is. (in a general way.) You can simply tell them that said grandma is a bad person, or not a nice person, and you yourself can’t be around her.

Shodan: The boyfriend I and my son were living with was someone I had been with for years. Over time, he began to exhibit a pattern of sudden extreme mood changes two or three times a year. At first they were just a day or two where he would be angry and unreasonable, but eventually the anger got quite intense and the last time it was a screaming rage. I am not a nagging or fight-provoking kind of person. My son was at school at the time.

The friend we went to live with was a lady friend, one I had known for ten years. Although my parents could not be characterized as affectionate or warm, up until this whole thing happened, we got along fine. They had had my son stay with them before, for a weekend here and there. They (really, it was mostly my mother) had given me no indication at all that anything was wrong. In fact, a week or two before they took him, I was there in San Bruno for a couple days visiting my son, and them. During that visit, my mom had a whole discussion with me about what kind of plans I wanted to have for my son’s birthday a couple of weeks hence – what day would be best, what for dinner, etc. Then on that day, I call her from the BART (transit) station with my arms full of gifts for my son, and she says, “There’s not going to be any party. He’s not here.”

Grandfathers both long dead. My son is 23; my parents had him from age 10 to 18. He lived on his own from 18 until last year. He is staying with me now while working and saving for an apartment.

My mother lied about pretty much everything she said about me in court. My parents, if you can believe this, were asking for termination of my parental rights and mandatory drug testing. Termination means that you can never see or speak to your child and you have no rights as parent at all. When the judge asked me what I thought about the request for drug tests, I told her that there was no contact with the police or child protective services, and not one incident or event that anyone could point to and say “She did that. That is bad.” The judge said, “I’m inclined to agree with you,” and denied their request.

What has recently broadsided me was finding out a short time ago that my mother told my son and my brothers all these years that I could not see my son because I “refused a drug test.” In other words, implying that I was out living some kind of dissolute, vaguely criminal life in a drug stupor, and didn’t love my son enough to simply take a test and then she would let me see him. There WERE no drug tests, because it was a crazy unfounded allegation for which she could produce not one shred of proof. And the only reason I hardly ever got to see my son was that she refused and obstructed my visitation brutally.

And apparently my son and my brother, having been told these things about me for years, think that it was really true. My brother didn’t speak to me for ten years after all this happened. He only started to communicate with me again three years ago. It’s crazy that I never actually asked him, but I assumed that the only way he would come back around me is if he was sorry for what they all did. (His wife wrote a poisonous letter to the court, with a bunch of really vicious prevarication. I was so hurt and appalled. Really, she hardly knew us.) But it turns out he’s not sorry.

I don’t see why people would even want to be around you, if they believe a lot of hateful nonsense like that. What possible goal would they have?