The RNC sees no reason to change things
Majority of Republicans blame Biden for riot
Yeah, I’m done. I voted Republican until Reagan, returned to vote for Bush I for his first term, but saw him as Reagan lite and voted for Clinton. I haven’t looked back, but held out hope the pubbies might one day return to their roots. Now I can’t see that happening in my lifetime, if ever.
Damn, from the second link:
“The poll, which surveyed nearly 1,450 registered voters on the events at the Capitol, found that among Republicans, 52 percent identified Biden as the biggest culprit, rather than Trump himself.
Comparatively, just 26 percent of Republican voters blamed the president for inciting the violence, while another 26 percent pointed fingers at congressional Republicans who vowed to block the official tally of Biden’s presidential win.”
The party of saying they’re the party of personal responsibility has become the party of “he-made-me-do-it!”
AZ Pubs censure John McCain widow
And now John McCain’s widow has been censured by the AZ Republican Party.
The censure calls her a “troubled individual, with a past riddled with drug abuse and illegalities associated with such behavior.”
They resolve to disassociate with her and any family members who support her.
McCain replied, describing herself as a “proud lifelong Republican and will continue to support candidates who put country over party and stand for the rule of law.”
McCain has been open about her struggles with addiction to the pain killers Percocet and Vicodin.
Two-thirds (67%) say the President deserves a good amount (15%) or a great deal (52%) of the blame for the riots in Washington, D.C.
Virtually all Democrats (94%) and a majority of independents (58%) believe Trump should be removed; only 13% of Republicans agree.
Among those who do not believe Trump should be removed (43%), about half believe he did nothing wrong (54%) and half believe his actions this week were wrong, but it is not worth the effort because he is leaving office on the 20th (45%).
Sixty-one percent of Republicans believe the President did nothing wrong, and a third believe it isn’t worth the effort.
These results would seem to suggest that majority of Dems and Independents are relatively rational about the situation, but the majority of Pubs are NOT.
The same Republicans who don’t want people marching with nazi flags to be called nazis.
I give up - WTF did Biden do?
Don’t ask me, ask the pubbies. It appears that just existing and not embracing Trump is
offensive to most of them.
If you believe the Trump narrative, Trump won the election but Biden and the Democrats stole his victory from him by illegal means. The riot was an attempt to obtain by illegal means what should have happened legally; it was an illegal response to a previous illegal act. So in this narrative, they argue Biden instigated the riot by being part of the illegal election that caused the riot.
Thanks - now I understand. Willful ignorance is impossible to combat. I believe we are in big trouble.
The good news is that I feel most people are not willfully ignorant.
This is why I feel we need to make election reform (the real kind not the conservative kind) a major priority. We need to fix the political system we have which allows a willfully ignorant minority to outvote the majority.
What, being a lizard sex-trafficking pedophile who wants to take our guns isn’t enough?
Welp, I changed my party affiliation a few days ago. Long-time registeredRepublican (since 1980) and now enrolled as a Democrat.
Never voted straight party, though
If the Sunday morning political talk shows are any indication, the problem I’m seeing already is that Republicans are talking about this as a case of one president going a little too far, which it is not. This is a case of a political party that has radicalized, and Trump was actually a symbol of that radicalization. People are naive as hell if they think this is over once Trump leaves office.
Already I’m seeing Republicans warning about more polarization and divisions if Trump is impeached. They don’t get it - probably don’t want to get it. Republicans have created these divisions single-handedly. They, collectively, as a party, have created this – not for four years, but for decades.
The Republic is in grave danger, and that won’t change 10 days from now. In many ways, the Republic and its institutions will be challenged even more directly because they will feel for the first time in several years what it is like to be the political party that is out of power.
This is absolutely not going away.
It’s time you consider it, or at least refuse to vote for one party.
This will not change until people stop rewarding that party with power.
I don’t mean that people can’t be conservative; in fact, as liberal as I am, I acknowledge that we do need a conservative wing to prevent against the excesses of liberalism.
But the republican party is radioactive now. The only way this country can heal is for people like Mitt Romney - whom I consider to be basically decent and honest - to leave the party, and to encourage others to do the same. Leave the party to become independents and then try to start a new party that reflects better values.
Yes, that will almost certainly mean a more liberal agenda over the next 2-4 years, but they could make republicans more popular and people like Romney would have some leverage as they would pull away moderates in the Democratic party.
But the current iteration of the GOP needs to be driven to extinction. Period.
It sort of makes my head spin when Republicans say “if you commit a felony, you’re stating that you do not consent to be governed.”
Then those same people will confidently say “holding Republicans accountable will just lead to more violence,” unaware that this is effectively a public declaration that they’re too violent to be governed.
They have to go. We can’t allow them to shift the Overton window beyond that red line.
That’s a dishonest accusation. The word “Republic” never applies to a member of the Republican Party, that just isn’t how the word is used. While “Democrat” is used to refer to a member of the Democratic Party all the time, as a noun. It is a common and understandable mistake.
The word “democrat” also means “supporter of democracy”, much as the word “democratic” does, so even if a person is trying to use the term as an adjective to insult a person they’re failing.
For 50 years, Democrats were falsely characterized by Republican’s as “fellow travelers” of the Communists. We now have a valid example of a major political party acting as fellow travelers of white supremacy, terrorism, sedition, and ironically even Russian nationalism.
I like to think Republicans are too radioactive to ever be elected again, but realistically, more people voted for Trump than any President in history except Biden.
The party needs to go, but as long as there are that many constituents, there will be politicians licking votes off the floor. I don’t know what the path forward is to get rid of them.
I’d say that if a majority of the Republican members of the House didn’t support the baseless and illegal objections to the electoral college votes they might have a point, but it’s a fact that even after seeing how far Trump was willing to go to subvert democracy (while hiding behind desks donning gas masks) they continued to support him in their votes. The problem goes way beyond one man.
I’m sure R leadership is well aware. Their statements are political rhetoric, intended to achieve a goal. That goal is not unity or equality.