I think what some of them are hoping for is to chase all the rats off, and let the rats run as independents (or in a new Trumplican Party). They want to retain the Republican brand, as the think it may retain some value. (idiots who vote R without reading, thinking or showing any signs of awareness)
I think that rather than chase them off, they want to keep the rats’ votes, and that means pretending like some of the rats’ horrible views don’t exist. Of course that leads to humoring some of their views, which moves the whole party’s platform in that direction. At least I think that is what happened with the Republican’s reaction to the Tea Party faction.
Will the Republican leadership have the courage to alienate lots of their core voters by disavowing Trump’s racists and anti-American agenda? I guess that is the whole question of this thread.
I don’t know much about Schwarzenegger’s politics but he’s always seemed like a “good Republican”. Nevertheless, according to people in this topic he (like me) is “a fucking traitor” who can “go to hell”. “By staying in the party”, Schwarzenegger is “supporting the party”. He “is part of an insurrectionist party, and one that needs to be crushed absolutely”. Maybe “Schwarzenegger has been a good Republican”, but he isn’t any more because “[t]here are no good Republicans anymore”. It has been said that “[t]here’s no room to be a good person in the modern Republican party”. He’s a “fascist”.
Schwarzenegger seems to think the party can be reformed and is ‘fighting the good fight’. I, for one, retain my party membership purely as a vehicle for suffrage in local politics. I don’t think either of us are enabling traitors.
~Max
I don’t think so either, but I really hope you (and the others like you) get cracking to take active, positive actions to kick the actual traitors out of your party. Because just sitting back and disapproving of them from afar will not work, IMO.
I don’t think that Republicans should leave their party en masse. I think they should reclaim their party, and work to restore it. It can happen.
Hey, that’s what I’m doing today! Bro!
There are Republicans, conservatives not in public office. I have no problem with any of them that have not trafficked in lies and gaslighting.
Do you believe that Joe Biden will be the legitimate 46th President of the United States?
Do you understand that only a handful of Congressmen from the bluest districts in the country are in favor of anything resembling “Socialism” and no one’s going to come after your stuff?
Do you understand that Democrats love America just as much as you do?
If so, we’re good. We can talk.
But the greater problem is the people in office with an R after their name, people loosely connected via the organization called the Republican National Committee.
That organization has been radicalized. They push conspiracy theories instead of developing considered policy positions and legitimate platforms. They have replaced the party leadership throughout the country with extremists who run extremists candidates for state and local offices. Many of these candidates won.
Trump cronies replaced the old fundraising platforms for the RNC with their own platform run by cronies. Not only is it corrupt, it’s been used to raise funds used towards the insurrection.
I know there are Republicans that aren’t condoning civil war, or something that looks like it, but they have to figure out how to cut ties. Not just the philosophical and moral ones, but financial and logistical ones.
I would like to think this would be possible, but a new NBC News poll, conducted Jan. 10-13 – so after the insurrection – has Trump’s approval rating at 87% among Republicans. And only 21% of Republicans say Biden won legitimately.
The people who are sane and “good” and able to take in information they don’t like, and cope with reality are so vastly outnumbered that I don’t know how they could possibly retake the party. I think they need to start coping with the reality of what the Republican party is now. Maybe you could at one time be a “good” Republican, but now, I think anyone who stays is helping to support the core of the Republican party, which is . . . not good.
I mean, do you stay in the Nazi party to try to moderate it? Or do you get out, because white supremacy and fascism isn’t what you signed up for?
I’m afraid you are entirely correct at this point.
That’s when you start shouting “Anteefa!”
I wasn’t sure that there was a Pit Thread deep enough to shove all of those treasonous ®s into.
Then again, I’m a Democrat. So I’m hopeful.
I don’t think I’ll ever be able to eat watermelon again.
At least not without washing it really well anyway.
The Republican party needs to go the way of the Whigs. I’ll never trust or respect a Republican again, and neither will anyone else with half a brain.
Let’s not be contrary
About the sixth of January
The Capitol treason and plot
I know of no reason the Capitol treason
Should ever be forgot
The Republican Party is a white nationalist terrorist group. It used to rely on the state to terrorize blacks, but now that they are losing control of government levers of power, they are reverting to overt terrorism. They’ve always been terrorists.
The fight for the party’s soul may be about to start in earnest. Interesting times
Charlottesville.
Darn auto correct, miss it by 50 miles… 
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And today I learned that the distance between the location of the Chancellorsville battle and Charlottesville city, where the fascists marched, is 50 miles.
Sounds like an old post of mine.
Well this voter fraud would never fly under any other president. There is no way Bush or any other republican would go this far that Trump has taken his people that voted for him and his own party to the right.
No party would ever go into major conspiracy like this or even the media that has moved to centrist position with Biden now trying to bridge both parties where the country is far and I say far from that position.
If Bush tried that his own party and media would turn on him and so his people that vote for him. Trump just moved the party and his people to the ultra right to allow for some thing like this to happen.
If anyone studies history with a broken country and divide country and culture will lead to fascism.Well Trump is not a fascist his people are moving to that system.
And the next president could really well be a fascist.
The next President is Joe Biden. Not a facist.