Aren’t the majority of people who do not support Trump fighting him for:
- All that he’s done,
- All that he’s doing, and
- All that they believe he might yet do?
But which do you feel is a higher priority? Fighting the things Trump is actually doing? Or fighting the things Trump might theoretically do?
My position is that fighting the actual things is more important than fighting the theoretical things.
Please see my previous post.
…there is nothing theoretical about it. Trump is funding, supporting and arming a genocide. Its just that:
You want to pretend that isn’t happening.
Don’t you know? If you pretend a problem doesn’t exist, it goes away! So just pull those blankets over your head and ignore any problems and everything will be fine.
So genocide is your blanket.
Here is a real simple task to see if this message of yours is at all effective:
Point out the people in this thread you think you have convinced.
I’d say the people who say they agree with me agree with me. Of course, maybe they already felt that way and my post wasn’t what convinced them.
He has made up the people who are going to be turned into apathy by too-strong rhetoric; why shouldn’t he make up people who agree with his own rhetoric?
No, genocide is the future, and the present.
Genocide denial is your blanket.
You’re going to have to try harder than this. “I’m rubber and you’re glue” isn’t going to work here.
Anyone reading this thread can see that I’ve repeatedly said we need to oppose Trump and the Republicans and focus on the most immediate issues. So accusing me of “hiding under a blanket” isn’t going to work.
I’m saying we should be working against civil rights violations and you’re saying we should be working against genocide. Now if I’m right, then I’m working on a real problem and you’re doing nothing. But if you’re right, then we’re working on the two opposite ends of the same problem. But either way, you can’t convincingly argue that I’m hiding under a blanket.
So you need to stop attempting to use my argument back against me and develop a more plausible argument that fits what I’ve said. Think of this as training.
You forgot the urgent fight against climate change.
Yes, that is an urgent fight. What’s your point?
Climate change is over-the-top Anti-Trump hysteria, Trump isn’t warming the globe, we need to fight what Trump is actually doing right now.
This, right here, is your precise misunderstanding. People are right now working against genocide—by protesting the camps; by raising money for Democrats; by filming ICE agents. Why would you think they were “doing nothing”?
I disagree. I feel that the scientific consensus is that climate change is occurring.
Yes, and that’s got extremely little to do with opposing Trump.
Probably true. Reversing climate change isn’t going to drive Trump or the Republicans out of power.
But I feel we’ve passed the point where we can work on pushing Trump and the Republicans out of power and then start working seriously on climate change. I don’t think we have the time to postpone working on climate change.
If genocide isn’t a real plan than efforts to stop genocide are being wasted. They’d be better used to fight genuine plans.
There’s also the numbers issue I’ve been talking about. If the people who are currently opposed to Trump and the Republicans were enough to drive them from power, then they wouldn’t be in power. So we need more people to join us in opposing Trump.
And as I’ve said, I feel we’re going to convince a lot more people to join the anti-Trump opposition by pointing to things that Trump is doing - like attacking civil rights - than by accusing him of having a secret plan to exterminate black people.
Then why in the thread you started, to complain about the way other folks are fighting Trump and the Republicans,
is it even on your list?