I pit over-the-top Anti-Trump hysteria

Well that’s a fucking relief. I guess we can just go around whistling “sunny days are here again”.

Wiser heads will prevail?
I really don’t think the voices in his head are leaning in that direction.

And is in dementia.

Whatever sense of consequences he used to have, he hasn’t got it now. That sort of judgement can disappear years before the ability to present somewhat normally in public is lost.

No. We absolutely do not. Remember “it’s the economy, stupid?” That’s the issue that gets you damn near everybody; and Trump is handing it to the Democrats on a platter, with garnish.

There’s plenty of garnish; and we need to talk about that too — ICE attacking entire communities, citizens included, with no due process, for instance. But there’s absolutely no sense in talking about impeachment again unless and until we’ve got 67 solid votes in the Senate. We tried that twice. It’s broken, it doesn’t work.

And, as has been pointed out, it’s not relevant to whether Trump tries to, or actually does, nuke Iran between now and November; though it is relevant to this overall thread.

Yes, I am. But at least it’s a plan. If somebody has a better plan, I’ll listen.

You can’t just go with “My fucking ghod, that is such an asinine plan that it shouldn’t even be on the table, and I am a complete tool for trying to push it over and over again”?
“At least it’s a plan.” Since when is making a plan that defies judgement and morality itself better than no plan at all???

Nihilists! Fuck me. I mean, say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it’s an ethos.

-Walter Sobchak

My plan is [step one] to identify the grown-ups in the room and [step two] step up the pressure on them. Unfortunately, I’m still stuck on step one.

I place the odds of a Senate conviction of Trump before Dec 2028 at less than 10%. The odds of Trump leaving the Presidency via some other route before that month are higher than the odds of a Senate conviction, according to me.

I agree with Little Nemo that consideration of outre scenarios such as global thermonuclear war, local thermonuclear war (hat-tip to @Fuji), US sponsored bio-chemical-nanite weaponry or whatever tends to take our eyes off the ball. Here is some decent commentary I’ve read this morning:

Paul Krugman tracks the continuing deterioration of the world’s respect for Trump: it’s probable that the Iranian denials of continuing US talks are more reliable than Trump’s claims of the opposite. Also, Trump’s lying to reassure financial markets may also involve some insider trading. Follow mfm on Bluesky.

As for Big Pictures, David Roberts notes how the mainstream media (and apparently the financial markets) are still flummoxed by Trumps nonstop BS:

… if you are surprised or shocked or puzzled in the face of Trump’s actions, it is de facto evidence that you resisted some of what was obvious. You projected your own assumptions & priors rather than seeing what was in front of you. You refused, if only subconsciously, to see what was plain.

I don’t even say this purely as a criticism. A creature like Trump is unusual in politics. Unusual period! Look at how flummoxed people are by toxic narcissists in private life – no reason it would be different in politics. It’s just genuinely difficult to believe that he is what he is.

I get it. Toxic narcissists screw up all our categories. They vex our natural reactions. They are good at manipulating us. But at this point, it’s been over 10 years, and I don’t think anybody has any excuses left! At long last, Trump is what he is. Accept it! Internalize it! Expect it! FFS.

Trump maintains 38.2% trendline support in the polls. His supporters have poor judgment.

In other news WAPO has an interesting article on the Middle East situation, heavily reliant on comments by Israeli governmental officials, who according to me deserve greater attention since their obviously self-interested commentary is that of a normal reality based democratic government. Gifted link for frankly bog-standard article:

https://wapo.st/40Jq2wn

Gift link requires an email address or account sign in, so not very helpful.

I’m pretty sure the odds of him leaving in a box are increasing by the day.

That is a picture put out by his supporters so that we hope he departs on his own instead of us actually doing anything.

He’s a 79 year old obese man with a love of highly processed food that works a high-stress job, and already appears to be having health issues. Nobody should rely on him dying in office, but it wouldn’t exactly be a surprise. It’s certainly more likely than impeachment and conviction, which is basically a fools errand. If he shoots a Senator on the floor of the Senate, then perhaps, maybe, the odds of conviction will be 50/50.

OTOH, if that senator is Ted Cruz, they might grant him sainthood. :laughing:

I don’t think it’s high stress for him. It was high stress for those who took it seriously and didn’t have his particular cocktail of toxic personality and cognitive disorders.

Shooting a Democrat, or a Republican?

If it’s a Democrat, he can do it and walk away. Even if it’s multiple Democrats. And if he lost power and somehow a Democrat took over, first thing they’d do is offer a pardon to him for it.

Maybe Trump can pull a Preston S. Brooks

And here is a hale and hearty FUCK YOU to anyone that claims a “win” whenever the court deals a temporary setback to Trump’s plans: The Trump administration is trying yet MFing again to deport Abrego Garcia. Trump administration ready to deport Kilmar Abrego Garcia to Liberia, asks judge to lift block - CBS News.
When it comes to the court ruling against Trump, if you use the word “win” you are a disingenuous asshole if said court ruling isn’t followed by Trump and/or his administration agreeing to abide fully by said court ruling.

Indeed. We should always be trying to find a way to convince Trump that HE won, even when he didn’t.
It’s poor parenting policy for any two-year-old, but we gotta play this game.

This would be a complete waste of time. Since his plan is basically to “baffle them with bullshit” over and over and fucking over again, this is all a win for him.