I would not spend much energy on them. Why would I? They said they wanted to vote against Trump, that’s good enough for me. If they called me hysterical for any of my beliefs, I would cut them out of my life.
That’s all I’ve been asking for. If there are people who are voting against Trump and the Republicans but who have other views you disagree with, don’t argue with them about those other views.
Has anyone disagreed with this sentiment?
I know i said:
And fwiw, i was also offended that you implied i am hysterical.
That’s why I said I am mad at you for your behavior and not your ideas.
Your behavior has been incredibly offensive, and the fact that you think you haven’t been rude is sure … something.
I didn’t mean to imply you were hysterical for the things you described.
You were going around telling people they shouldn’t vote for Trump for valid reasons. That’s not hysteria. As you said, you knew the room.
But if somebody was going door to door telling people they shouldn’t vote for Trump because he’s running death camps, that would be hysteria.
Okay, again, give me an example. A post from this thread where you feel I was being incredibly offensive.
Think of it as your chance to educate me.
Every time you have called people ‘hysterical’.
And I encourage you to go back and look at the many, many links I have already provided.. Think of it as your chance to educate yourself.
FYI, that’s not at all the message you’ve been communicating.
Are you saying that hysteria doesn’t exist? And that therefore any accusation of hysteria must be false and offensive? I doubt this.
So I’m guessing that what you mean is that there have been some instances in this thread where I accused a person of behaving hysterically when they were not. Is that correct?
If so, can you point me to a specific post where I did that?
No, it would be poor marketing.
Trump wasn’t running anything during the election, so I’ll assume you meant people going door to door saying that if elected Trump will run death camps.
The ICE detention camps aren’t gassing the detained. There’s a pretty high mortality rate, due to mistreatment, but they aren’t actively killing people. But you know, Hitler’s concentration camps didn’t gas the detained at first, either. Are we on that path? Yes, i believe we are. There are lots of exits from that path, and i think there’s a decent chance we’ll take one. But i also think there’s a nontrivial chance we won’t.
That being said, on Saturday i went to a protest, and a guy handed me a sign with two sides. One side said something about detention camps with little swastikas replacing the "E"s. I choose to hold it showing the other side. Because despite my beliefs, i still judge that’s not the persuasive thing to say. And indeed, when i gave the sign back to the guy who brought it, he held it the other way (showing the swastikas), and one passerby pointed at the sign and said, “that’s offensive”.
After he left, the protesters (there were only 5 of us, in front of a bank that is courting business with ICE) chatted about the interaction. And i mentioned that i had chosen to hold the sign the other way, because I’m more interested in persuasion than in expressing outrage. The guy who brought the sign is more interested in spurring to action those who agree with him, so he’s going for outage.
But: it’s basically a marketing choice.
If you want to say that you pit anti-Trump marketing that’s based on extrapolation, rather than based on what he’s already done, go for it. I think that thesis would have generated a very different discussion, and a more productive one.
That’s all the message I started with.
I did later add a second message, which was that personal attacks do not produce successful communication with the person you’re directing them at.
Hysteria is an offensive, uncharitable way of describing some behaviors that do exist. You would get much better results if you learned how to describe those behaviors without using a deeply loaded sexist term.
No it’s not. You started by speaking of “hysteria”. It’s right there in the title of the thread.
This. You poisoned the well from the beginning.
So are you saying any use of the word hysteria is offensive?
Please answer the question I’ve been asking.
Don’t just say I did it. Show me the post or posts where I did it.
No, it wasn’t. That might have been what you were trying, but what you actually achieved was… different.
You have already demonstrated your deliberate lack of reading comprehension. Could you please move on?
Any chance of getting this back to the anti-Trump hysteria?
Without rereading this painfully stupid thread,
No one except for the strawmen in Little_Nemo’s head.