Overkill much? At no point did Guns advocate illegal drugs, just pointed out that they were an option to someone whose main goal was to get high.
WTF ?
Did he point out the pitfalls of this option ?
Note, HE DEFENDED that option in subsequent posts.
I never said it wasnt an option, either for the record. Just a stupid one, IMO.
Brain fart much ?
I gotta say, it is really hard to take you seriously when you insist on putting a space before your question marks.
You’re still freaking out. She didn’t defend it and has not, in fact, said that it is something people should do, only that it’s an option and not a difficult or particularly dangerous one. Is it the “not particularly dangerous” part that you infer to be advocacy?
I agree, but…
Bourbon has to be 51% corn, Rye has to be 51% rye, etc. See 27 CFR 5.22.
Note the lack of anything requiring that Bourbon not be filtered through charcoal. Villa’s comments aside, the distinction between Tennessee whiskey and Bourbon is more marketing than actual. And pretty much anyone who gets all prickly about calling Jack a Bourbon is an insufferable snob.
What ivn said. I think you missed the word “respectively”:
Exactly. I was a social drinker before, now I’m not. No one even notices when others are having drinks and I’m not - because I don’t hang out with people who are (IMO) weird about alcohol.
Anyway, even when I was a drinker, the taste of booze or feeling of being tipsy and drunk was never that impressive. Since even one drink is something your liver really has to work at, I don’t see the point of consuming it when it’s not very enjoyable for me.
I am not freaking out.
But I gotta say its one of the stupidest suggestions I’ve heard here recently.
Can’t stand the taste of booze … ? … Try illegal drugs. Good fucking grief.
If my previous post doesn’t explain why I did it (“loathe” is putting it strongly), I’m not sure this attempt will be any better. But I’ll address these particular points:
- Sweetened frou frou drinks aren’t really appealing to me. I’ve pretty much always liked wine, but the frou frou drinks taste to me like fruit juice gone bad. I’ve tasted the alcohol in every one I’ve had. (The exception to this rule is my own creation, the Passamaquoddy Punch: cranberry cocktail, rum, angostura bitters, and seltzer; the bitterness of the cranberry and the bitters offsets the sugar). I learned to like beer long before I learned to tolerate fruit-juice-and-spirits.
- I don’t get the same effect from pot that I get from alcohol. Furthermore, as I laid out at some length in my previous post, I suspected–rightly so–that once I got past the overwhelming and unpleasant sensations of hops (for beer) and alcohol burn (for spirits), I’d find a world of wonderful flavors and aromas. I’ve never suspected that I’d find such a thing in the world of marijuana.
Again, the point, you have missed it. You’ve become not worth the time.
Haven’t read the entire thread bit I agree with the spirit of the OP to an extent – people freak out if you don’t drink. Misery loves company and it’s a mainstay in pretty much every culture across time since booze was invented. Which is why you don’t tell them you don’t drink you fucking freak. The suggestions about ordering and carrying a drink around are good ones. That’s what I do sometimes. But if you go to a bar where people are dropping shots then, well, you’re stupid and deserve everything you get.
Similarly, if everyone is talking about Jaysuz and their personal experiences you don’t say religion is a superstition used for social control and tribal affirmation unless you want to be shunned and have your idea proven correct. This is common sense, right?
Hmmm, both drinking alcohol and coffee are social activities. Maybe it’s not the taste that is the issue here at all?
Both are an acquired taste. I understand that recently research has suggested that we grow to favour the usual. Personally I drink Guinness which most will inform you has a terribly bitter taste to it. Yet I quite enjoy it and it some how goes well with very good chocolate. Go figure.
There is no reason for you to drink anything you don’t want to so why bother with all of it?
There is a wonderful place between sober and sloshed that allows for some of the usual barriers we have between us to be lowered and connections not too common to be made. I submit this is in fact the attraction to alcohol. But you don’t just get there. You have to understand navigation which is something that is missing from your original post. Many people simply can’t hold their course and miss the intended mark.
For what it’s worth, I don’t think you need a lecture on the merits of, but rather once you find your way to that spark of interest in the effects it will have on you, and those are different for each person, you should find yourself a guide who can without being side tracked, introduce to you the vast expanse that is altering your mind with chemicals.
There is nothing profound about drinking. It doesn’t make you a zen master, or give you some sort of special insight. I’ve never seen a person drinking able to levitate. Mostly I see them falling down. Maybe having their head in a toilet gives a person special insight, I dunno.
I don’t feel you should need to carry a drink around. If you don’t drink, just don’t drink. You don’t have to say “I don’t drink”, especially since you’re fairly judgemental about drinkers and I’m sure that comes through.
If someone offers you a drink, just say “No, thanks”. If someone asks you why you’re not drinking, then you can say you don’t drink. If they ask why, don’t take the bait–say “I just don’t”. If you’re cool about it, no one is going to care, but if you’re hateful or weird about it the assholes will keep pushing those buttons.
As for the “friends” you have who bug you about this, just don’t engage it anymore. When they start to give you shit about it, just turn around and walk away. It obviously gives them some satisfaction to get a rise out of you about it, so if you keep giving it to them they’ll keep doing it. Don’t reward it. Walk away, or just go home.
Isn’t this exactly what I said?
Oh, now I see the miscommunication. The 51% of any one grain was in reference to Tennessee Whiskey, not bourbon. I was correcting msmith’s claims that the difference between the two is in the grains used in the mash. While there can be a difference in the mash, for all practical purposes there isn’t. From The Book of Classic American Whiskey, “Tennessee Whiskey is a straight whiskey which has to be distilled in Tennessee from a mash which is at least 51% of some grain, distilled at less than 160 proof. While the predominant grain doesn’t technically have to be corn (as it does in the case of bourbon) in fact all Tennessee whiskey now made is at least 51% corn.”
Have you not been paying attention? Taste has little to do with it. These people are wrapped up in their silly ideas about alcohol consumption, and those who participate.
This is why I recommend against ever offering an explanation for why you don’t drink. If “No thanks, I don’t drink” isn’t good enough then nothing else will be.
“Beer killed my father! With a knife!”
The knowledge that one *can *drink without ultimately falling down and throwing up is a game-changer. I had this epiphany at about age 16, but for some it appears to take longer. Abstaining from alcohol because of the antics out-of-control drunks is about like swearing off solid foods after seeing a morbidly obese redneck assembling his teetering seventh plateful of sausage biscuits and gravy at the Ryan’s buffet.
Speaking of difficult concepts, one for you seems to be a “joke”.
I grew up with a religious prohibition of alcohol. I’ve never tasted the stuff except Nyquil and some fancy desserts and sauces. Now that I’ve denounced my religion, I still have no desire to start drinking. Not that I have anything at all against social drinkers, but why pick up a habit in my 30s that has no forseeable positive consequences? Even at formal occasions, I’ll stick to Diet Pepsi, thanks.
So far, no one has tried to push drinks on the wife and me. But if this thread is any indicator, it looks like it’s gonna happen eventually.