Speaking as a drinker, and an occasionally heavy drinker, I can in fact sympathize with the hate on pushy drinkers. I mean, take the last wedding I was at–it was an Irish wedding, and people were expected to get toasty. I’d been managing my intake so I was never quite sloshed, but I was very warmed up. Last call came, I looked at my drink, and I though “well, this will be enough”.
One of my friends, meanwhile, got a tray of EIGHT drinks at last call, and kept trying to push them on the small group we were hanging out with. Including me.
Then the guy decided (after drinking four of them himself in a half-hour, ruining what had been a pretty good buzz with full-on drunk) to start a fight with me on the ground that Irish Events had to have fights. I had a bruise on my arm for a week from where he tried to punch me in the head and missed.
You, sir, are a flaming moron. All anime is not created equal. Why bother doing this in this thread when we already have perfectly valid reasons to kick the OP.
I don’t know about you, but Mr. Daniels and I were love at first taste–and I started with bourbon as the second thing I tried after deciding I didn’t like Natural Ice. Most people I know who drink liked it from the get-go.
Bullshit. Why on earth would you make yourself drink it until you like it? Is it because you feel like you need to be accepted, and you feel like you can’t be accepted until you get sloshed? Or is it because you just want to get drunk, and regular drinks won’t do it for you? Fuck that. There’s no reason I can’t hang out at a bar and be social with a non-alcoholic drink.
I’ll be happy if I can find an alcoholic drink I like, but I see absolutely no reason to continue drinking something that tastes horrid on the first swallow. “Yeah, I drink it. It tastes miserable, but goddammit, it’s alcohol, and it makes me a man!” Laughable.
There is a difference between liking the taste of something and liking the overall effect of it. As many have said, a few drinks now and again is pleasurable experience. Most of us managed to overcome our initial distaste for alcoholic beverages, so as to reap the benefits we wanted to obtain from said drink. It that sense its not like any unpleasant thing that we do in order to acheive a positive result, like working out or studying for a test.
Making detailed analogies involving garbage like Dragonball is usually a sign that someone has an unhealthy obsession with anime and regards it all as some sort of rarefied art form that most other white people are too boorish to understand. Thus the actual quality of whatever specific shows he mentioned by name is irrelevant because he thinks they’re all equally brilliant.
So, everybody who doesn’t see why they should “acquire” a taste for alcohol, how do you enjoy your solid diet of grilled cheese sandwiches, hamburgers, chicken fingers, and mac’n’cheese?
I’m not entirely sure I get what you’re driving at. Yeah, I used to hate tomatoes and spinach, and now I quite like them. But it wasn’t a matter of me forcing down tomatoes until I could stand them; I just avoided them until one day I thought “Hey, maybe I’ll give them another shot” and lo and behold, I liked them.
Alcohol is more like sushi for me. I want to like it, and I’ve made an effort to, but every time I try it I just can’t stand the taste. I mean, I try to abide strongly by “Don’t knock it 'til you try it” when it comes to food and drink, but once I’ve tried it, I’m quite comfortable knocking it, especially if I’ve tried it a lot and just can’t appreciate it.
ETA: I keep hoping alcohol turns out to be like the first paragraph, and I give it a try every so often with different drinks, hoping that lo and behold, I like it. No luck yet.
I must, as well. The people I know who drink don’t try to force others to drink, those who smoke don’t try to force others to smoke, no one tries to hassle anyone to eat or drink things they don’t like…I guess we’re unusual. I thought that was just how people commonly treated each other.
And the people I know who drink a lot are generally quite witty and entertaining, even to sober old me.
Hell, I didn’t have as much trouble with pushy drunks, in high school & college, parties and bar-hopping combined, as some of y’all seem to have on a daily basis. Maybe we’re just politer around here.
Newsflash: you’re wrong, and acting the arse to boot.
Count me as another who loved bourbon at the first taste. It did take me years to learn to drink beer though, and I’m still fairly picky. I kept trying different beers because everyone else seemed to love it, and finally found a few I liked. No one tried to make me drink beer, though. I did the same thing with fish; again, not because anyone hassled me, just because everyone else seems to love the stuff.
I started drinking because I liked the taste. I went through a brief period of sometimes drinking to excess (a year or so in college), then stopped because I decided didn’t particularly like being drunk.
I don’t like the taste or the smell of alcohol.
I don’t like the taste of coffee but I do like the smell of coffee.
(Bonus)I don’t like the taste or smell of chocolate.
I love most olives.
I don’t like the taste of tea and am neutral on the smell of it.
Trust me…I know about 40 adults with Down’s syndrome…Overall, they are not suffering any more or less than you and I. Try a different angle to insult someone.
Meh. Tennessee whiskey is pretty much Bourbon except they filter it through charcoal. The distinction between bourbon and Jack is much less than that between two different scotch whiskeys.
For some of us, there are alcohols that always tasted tasty. For others, alcohol is an “unnatural” taste that we’ve had to train our brains to move past. Perhaps, for some people, either they’re of the latter category and are unable to ever move past the taste they’re not expecting to be able to experience the other dimensions of the drink, or there’s something else going on, like with cilantro, where people are actually experiencing completely different tastes.
A non-alcohol comparison: Modest Mouse. (Not their new relatively boring populist stuff, the good older albums–before Good News.) A friend was a fan and sent me some of their music. My first reaction was, “Holy shit, this band is terrible.” But I kept listening, figuring that if this person whose taste I trusted likes them, they couldn’t be all that bad. And once I moved past that initial impression, which was based on a lack of exposure to bands with that kind of sound, they became one of my favorite artists. If I would have stopped after the first few songs, just because of that initial impression, I would have deprived myself of a great deal of enjoyment.
Didn’t read the whole thread but great rant, good pit material.
If people push a drink on you just refuse with “no thanks, I don’t drink” and be firm but cool about it, don’t excuse it. If you say it’s a taste issue most people will take that as girly and immature and try to “help”. Idiotic but there you go.
That actually helps reframe it for me. Certainly a better argument than “what the hell are you complaining about the taste for? It’s for getting drunk, not enjoying!”
Exactly. If you don’t like the taste of your drink, what the hell are you drinking it for? As I’ve stated elsewhere, there are many beers and wines I would continue to drink, even if there were magically no intoxicating effect to them. (In fact, it could even be considered a benefit, since I could then drink as much as I like without impairment, hangovers, or alcohol poisoning.)
