What is actually terribly stale is your one trick pony side show, so it would be nice if you stopped doing it.
Snerk.
Oh please. I know you like to go about in these threads play devil’s advocate or whatever your motivation is, but if you are honestly worried that a dog jumping on you could be an indication it is going to bite, you are completely without a clue.
Is the average person on the street really this clueless about dogs??
I get that you dislike it when people call you out on your trolling. But here’s the thing - it’s always a reaction to your actions. Nobody else but you starts the process. If you dislike being called out so much, there is a very simple solution to this problem. Just stop trolling. The ball is entirely in your court.
ETA: I’d really like a cite for the thread where you ‘proved’ Idle Thoughts wrong. I suspect that would be good for a laugh.
Biting my arm doesn’t count as an attack? Biting my arm doesn’t injure me? Did you even read it?
I see we are completely talking past each other here. Good lord, the ways you tie yourselves in knots to avoid admitting that dogs should not be allowed to jump on people.
Hon, just because you and your friend think it’s trolling doesn’t make it so. I don’t care at all if you want to take the time to follow me around, but don’t expect that I won’t occasionally point out how immature it is.
Ask him/her to find it, since he/she seems to have plenty of time to waste on stuff like that.
We would not be talking past each other (or at least as much) if you would read what I write and not respond to what you imagine my position to be. I have said this in nearly every post that I have written, just so that my position would not be misconstrued, but let me say it again. Here it goes:
[SIZE=“5”]“Owners should not allow their dogs to jump on people.”[/SIZE]
Even if the person wants to be jumped on, it messes up the dog’s training, because the next person to come by may have a replaced hip, or be a little kid, or be some oddball who freaks out and starts kicking the dog. And even if you are none of those people, its still damn annoying to have a dog stick its muddy feet on your chest.
Is my position clear?
Here’s the second part of my position: people on this thread are getting way over dramatic about dogs jumping on them. The dog is not attacking you. Your health is not being jeopardized. Be annoyed. Be very annoyed. Yell at the owner. But if you go around attacking friendly dogs that trot up to you, you are doing several negative things:
(1) You are getting yourself needlessly worked up.
(2) You are hurting a friendly animal.
(3) You are looking like a nut case.
(4) You are pissing off the dog’s owner, because…
(5) You are messing up the dog’s training. Dogs should think that people are friendly. The dog that trots up to someone and is whacked is now developing a different idea about humans. The dog that is fearful is the dog that may actually attack somebody if it thinks it is threatened.
By the way, your ear twist did not sound over the top; I was referring more to other jump evasion strategies described in this thread.
I read it. It sounded like an overly friendly, very poorly trained dog who did not know that you shouldn’t play like that with strangers. I think if a six foot tall dog had its mouth around your arm and was actually attacking you, there would be no need to check for skin punctures – you would know that you had them. And it probably wouldn’t be deterred by an ear twist. You stated yourself that the dog was not being aggressive, just over-exuberant.
I know that I’m disinclined to take you as being against dogs jumping on people because you keep saying the equivalent of: Oh, I agree dogs shouldn’t do that not that it can possibly hurt anyone, you big crybabies.
Yeah, it’s as if he’s trying to play both sides at once. On one hand, dogs shouldn’t jump on/at people; on the other, anybody who’s worried about being jumped on/at by a dog gets poo-pooh’ed.
Well just because you aren’t bright enough to tell when you’re trolling doesn’t mean I won’t occasionally point out how stupid you are. You sure seem to get worked up when you’re called on it, so your claim that you don’t care really doesn’t ring true.
I do like when you call people ‘hon’ or ‘dear’ though - I get a hilarious image of you cackling away to yourself in your little Orange County McMansion, rubbing your hands together with glee. “Oooh, I’ll call them ‘hon’, it’ll be so scathing!” It’s good for a laugh, so please keep it up.
Ah - translation: it never happened. Thanks, but I was hoping for something funnier than that.
Dogs shouldn’t jump up because they CAN hurt the elderly, the young, and people who are frail for other reasons. It is also annoying to most other people. And yes, many of you on this thread appear to be big crybabies. These things are not mutually exclusive.
So. funny. I know its much easier to argue against an extreme position (ie dogs should jump on everybody, all the time!). Hell, you are so loathe to admit that you agree with much of what I am saying that you are even trying to restate my position for me!
Close, but not quite. Dogs shouldn’t jump on people (at least you got the first bit right after the big font), but any able bodied adult who is worried about injury/attack from a friendly dog jump is being over dramatic.
Right. Because the injuries some of us have sustained are immaterial.
There was a thread once, either on this board or another, where some dude was saying, paraphrased, “Oh, I agree men shouldn’t rape women, but it’s not like it causes any damage. Women’s bodies are designed for sex.”
You’re making a very similar argument, ignoring real injuries because they are inconvenient, and giving a sort of half-assed condemnation of behaviors while saying it’s not a big deal.
I have had deep scratches in my leg and a puncture wound from a jumping dog. I have seen people knocked over and down the stairs and tripped by dogs. Your stampy-foot protests that these things never or rarely happen are less than convincing since all you have to back that up is your claim which runs counter to my experiences. My experiences outweigh your opinion. They always will.
Joe: Hey, Timmy, don’t smoke those cigarettes; you’ll be dead of lung cancer within a week!
MisterW: Well, he definitely shouldn’t smoke them – its a very unhealthy habit. But let’s be realistic – Timmy’s not going to get lung cancer from smoking for a week.
Joe: Oh, so you think Timmy should smoke the cigarettes? What’s wrong with you?!
MisterW: Um…no. I said he shouldn’t smoke them, but he won’t be dead in a week even if he does.
Joe: What a jerk – I can’t believe you want Timmy to smoke cigarettes.
MisterW: For fuck’s sake, I don’t want him to smoke, but if he does, he won’t be dead in a week!!!
jsgoddess: I get what MisterW is saying, but I think he really does want Timmy to smoke.
Nava: I don’t get it, MisterW seems to be playing both sides at once. Does he want him to smoke or not; I don’t get it…
Us: Hey, Timmy. Don’t start smoking, it can hurt you.
You: Aw, it can’t hurt him. People might not like to be around him so he shouldn’t do it, but it won’t hurt him. There’s no way it can hurt him. Getting hurt by smoking is so incredibly rare it’s not even worth worrying about. Other people who claim to have been hurt by smoking are just crybabies or weaklings. Rare and impossible and rare and unlikely and it doesn’t happen and crybabies! But you shouldn’t smoke because people don’t like it.
And you live in Orange County, Califo-- excuse me, OCC? Where there’s so many lawyers per square foot that you pretty much need to assert diplomatic immunity if you want to say “good morning” to a stranger without getting haled into court on a sexual harrassment charge?
You poor thing, you’re gonna get eaten alive one of these days.
I’m actually curious what you think the two sides are. It seems like many of the preemptive strike/anti-jumping side like to rant against the pro-jumping group (those who are fine with dogs jumping on people). Yet, now that I think about it, I can’t remember anyone being in favor of dogs jumping on people. Maybe I missed a couple posts along the way? Or maybe its a convenient straw man?
Dogs should never jump on people because people are unpredictable, dramatic, dangerous and easy to unbalance. It seems from this thread that everyone can agree dogs jumping on people may result in injury to the human or the dog. Dogs can be trained, humans, I am not so sure about.
This is a classic example of you reading thing into posts that aren’t there, since I really couldn’t care less if someone like you thinks I’m a troll. So, if you are seeing “worked up”, you are seeing things that aren’t there - me telling you that you are acting like a child is definitely not me “worked up”.
Always aim to please!
OK, using that logic, you prove to me that it didn’t happen. No proof? Huh, guess I did prove him/her wrong…
Heh, unfortunately for me my father was a bottom feeder - er, I mean an attorney - and my eldest brother still is. But even having been forced to grow up with that crap, I still don’t regard a scratch as an injury. And actually, maybe that is why - it’s a response to all of those frivolous “injury” suits.
Hey there - how are you enjoying this train wreck? I’m sure you’ll be interested to learn that you’ve been ‘proved wrong’. Don’t know where, don’t know when, but it happened. Oh yes, it happened all right.
Today I received 2 different reports of people who got leg and foot wounds from dog nails (one scratch, one puncture) and they had to have medical care for the infections. Someone in this area is wielding a pointy dog and trying to provide citations for the thread.