As a Doper, I’m going to point out you were quoting kanicbird.
(snipped by me) - this is about as far off from being ‘correct’ as the OP is - you’re welcome to your beliefs, but these interpetations appear to largely be your own and not shared by any denominations.
See the post directly above yours.
understood - it still needed to be said for those that are not familiar with him.
No no no,Gambling is in Psalms, right after breasts as white as doves (the Naughty bits).
I’m no Bible expert, but was raised in the Baptist church and I don’t remember most of that stuff he posted. Now, The Bible was written by men and then printed, translated, blah de blah all over tarnation, so yeah, there are some contradictions.
And as someone else mentioned, Old Testament is pretty fire and brimstone, but the examples the OP gave? I’d like to know where he got those ideas, not in a snotty way in a perplexed, “where does it say THAT?” way.
FTR, I can see where he gets the emotionally outraged part of it. There are a lot of hypocrites in the church (Protestant, I can’t attest to other branches), but there are in all walks of life also, so this isn’t really a Christian, or Christian God kinda thing, it’s a "person who is using God to further his un-Christian ways " thing.
Christian means believes in Christ’s life, death, resurrection, died for our sins etc. Period. It doesn’t mean you get to burn gay people at the stake, we’re not supposed to shove our religion down others’ throats even. The Bible specifically states that you let God judge. (and none of us, not even Christians, have any idea how Judgment Day is going to go, so people falsely calling themselves Christians and doing bad things in His name, are idiots, not Christians).
As to the “Bible says to follow Hitler” thing? I"m going to take a wild stab here and say that he might be referring to the “render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s and render unto God the things that are God’s” part. It’s only one statement in the Bible, other verses and chapters make it clear that (for Christians) God’s laws trump man’s laws, even Hitler’s. Those that did evil in God’s name in Hitler’s time weren’t Christians and they weren’t following either the Bible or God’s law.
The rest of the stuff, I’m stumped on. I can’t even guess where he got it from, but it’s not the Bible. Maybe some Phelpish type pamphlet of insanity?
I’m thinking wonky brain chemistry trumps any philosophy or faith or Biblical Lit Crit.
Hope you find the right meds, OP! But not before you treat us to some even more convoluted explanations of How That God Stuff Really Works.
“Mistake not the deeds of Christians with the Holiness of Christ” – Watchwolf 7:36
Yeah, imagine a world where all the inhabitants had to walk on tightropes across pits of burning fire - and God gave them all inner ear problems which would cause them to lose their balance. Offering a harness if the people would kiss his ass doesn’t make him any less of a monster.
But consider Job where Satan, with God’s blessing, did kill Job’s children. But it was okay because God replaced them like you would replace a defective memory stick.
God creates psychopaths also, people who see nothing wrong with mass murder. But that is okay, right, because they’d be different without those urges? And the vast majority who do see what is wrong with mass murder must be lacking something. I’m sure you think mass murder is wrong - unless God does it, of course.
Why are you pitting a work of fiction, dude? It makes as much sense as complaining about Harry Potter or Twilight.
THIS!
If Twilight fans started actually assaulting people and drinking their blood, then that comparison would work. As it is, it doesn’t. Religion deserves to be complained about and condemned because its followers constantly attempt to force other people to conform to their fantasies.
Should’ve known DT wouldn’t want to be left out of the Neurotically Overstating Your Pet Values thread. Guess those pesky Theists aren’t the only whack jobs.
C’mon, D-Trihs, Drunky Smurf is looking classy compared to you.
Hey, he did have the best comment here:
As written (in Genesis), this is wholly incorrect. Jehovallah created humans as neutral players, Adam & Eve were innocent as babes. For all we know, they were engaging in the most extreme things that apply to Rule 34, that much itself was not prohibited by god. So what was the original sin?
They snacked on some fruit that bestowed on them knowledge of good and evil. The “fall from grace” was not so much a failure as a discovery: humans learned about ethics/morality. Because when you think about it, there cannot be sin at all if the concept is incomprehensible.
Thus, god does not create humans as sinful, “original sin” is a matter of being able to understand what sin is in the first place. And, curiously, it arbitrarily decided that humanity was “wicked” and had to be (mostly) drowned like vermin centuries before Mose showed up to bring divine law down from the mountain: how could those people have been bad before they even had the legal code that told them how to be good?
This god person appears to be a fickle, capricious twat, and I personally am quite pissed off that it will not even let me have a babel fish.
Somebody tell him it’s Christmas.
I see.
If this is how you see it then I can imagine that you would think I am ludicrous.
But not everyone has the same spiritual beliefs (or no spiritual beliefs).
Kudos for you pointing out where you thought I was wrong in the post rather then just making fun of me or insulting me with no explanation.
Handy hint: We’re not the only ones…
We could simply have a coming out party for non-believers.
I’m out and proud. I wear the fact that ludicrous nonsense doesn’t control my mind quite proudly on my sleeve.
Those who wish to join are welcome to join. Those who find meaning in that bunch of twaddle are free to keep seeing whatever they want to see.
It’s sort of like a magic eye picture that doesn’t actually contain a hidden picture- if you stare at it long enough, it becomes whatever is inside your mind to begin with.
Hate teh gays? Bible says that’s a great idea.
Love your neighbor? Bible says to love your neighbor.
It’s a reflection of who you are and a reinforcement of it.
Good person? Bible tells you to be good. Evil person? Bible tells you to do evil and call it good.
It’s masturbation. It allows people to pleasure themselves and tell themselves they are morally awesome for pleasuring themselves the precise way they actually prefer it. So those who hate can celebrate how morally pure their hatred makes them. And those who love can feel smug about an emotion pretty much everyone should feel for their fellow human being anyway.
Fantasy and masturbation and self-congratulation are all very nice, but just like most folks, I don’t want to watch people do it.
And yet, you participate in The Straight Dope–that’s pretty much what goes on here, no?
I come here to publicly masturbate so you guys can watch me. That’s *completely *different.
And to get some handy hints on technique, no doubt.
Because I’m noticing that you’re gripping a little high, and you need to keep your thumbs pointed down the shaft …