You believe the Illuminati influences corporations, correct? Do you believe the influence all corporations, or just the large ones? For instance, do they influence Apple?
Great, now we’re getting somewhere… NOT. The ‘Illuminati’, as you have so vaguely postulated them, could equally be considered a link between the dead frog my cat obviously killed a few years ago (I remember stepping on it in the dark, that sticks with you for years, man…), and the guy riding his motorcycle this afternoon who revved his engine as he passed my house. This is the quality of the ‘connections’ you keep presenting, and expecting us to see. Nothing you have presented is of any better quality than the ‘cat - dead frog - motorcyclist’ connection I just made, but you expect the rest of us to agree with ‘therefore Illuminati’ from that. Why should we do anything else but point and laugh at you, when that’s the kind of thing you keep serving up as ‘evidence’ for your beliefs?
You are either a troll, or a mentally ill loon. There are no other possibilities. And I’m leery of the ‘troll’ label, because it would take a troll of incredible skill to maintain such an insane position, without a single crack, for as long as you have maintained it. I bet on loon. Really seriously psychotic loon. Where do you live? I want to stay away from there, so I won’t be killed when you snap.
Well, alot of posters have been attacking my political beliefs. Not all posters. Some.
And that proves what exactly? That my cat killed the frog, and therefore the motorcyclist revved his engine, because the Illuminati exist, and made him do it? Why should I believe that, since you’ve provided nothing remotely approaching an actual reason to believe it?
Definite loon, here, folks. Not a troll. No troll I’ve ever seen is this good. Not even me, on my best trolling days…
Ask long as the criterion that **iiandyiiii ** demands is the same that you will accept. 
You got it. 
Carefully read the following:
Because they are in control.They need to be perceived to be in control so that they can take the world system, the entire fucking system, to another level.
The Illuminati make it appear that there is anarchy in the world system. This relates to these parts in my political beliefs:
To understand what I mean by “The Illuminati is a hyperpower”, understand that there is a connection between the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany. Of course, one was communism, the other, fascism. The connection is between Marx, Lenin, and Stalin on one side and Hitler on the other side. Of course, both Stalin and Hitler were heads of goverment, and, as I wrote in my political beliefs:
Of course, both Stalin and Hitler were dictators, as was Saddam Hussein. My point is: Two heads of governments, two dictators were the adversaries that, supposedly, had the most influence over World War II, the most massive, monumental war in history. World War II involved more than just armies like in World War I.
Before World War II, before World War I, there was this event, recorded in the history books:
[QUOTE=The Encyclopaedia Britannica, Volume 23, Page 532]
An unusual sequence of events led Marx and Engels to write their pamphlet The Communist Manifesto. In June 1847 a secret society, The League of the Just, composed mainly of emigrant German handicraftsmen, met in London and decided to formulate a political program. They sent a representative to Marx to ask him to join the league; Marx overcame his doubts, and, with Engels, joined the organization, which thereupon changed its name to the Communist League and enacted a democratic constitution. Entrusted with the task of composing their program, Marx and Engels worked from the middle of December 1847 to the end of January 1848. The London Communists were already impatiently threatening Marx with disciplinary action when he sent them the manuscript; they promptly adopted it as their manifesto.
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Exactly.
All these events, together, cannnot be explained without a secret society known as the League of the Just.
Yes it can. See: every history book.
Kozmik, I’ve discovered a solution to your problem. It will work to convince everyone of your ideas. Your problem is that your brain isn’t ventilated enough to explain it. Here’s the solution. Take a gun and put it just behind your left ear. Point the barrel toward your right eye. Pull the trigger. That will let enough oxygen into your brain that it will enable you to think of the proper way to explain it.
Guaranteed to work. Trust me. After all, I’m a member of the Illuminati. Fnord.
Well you are totally ignoring my political beliefs.
And you do so at your peril.
Just saying…
Just post your political beliefs. I promise I won’t attack them. After all, my political beliefs are now the default position. 
No. Euphonious Polemic will.
Or a genuis.
I am. But not your idea of fun.
You’ll never guess at what post number I won the debate. Or how I got there. I want to thank AngryLittleGirl for all the inspiration. YouTube video related. No summary needed.
I think I’ve been quite clear about what they are already.
Perhaps I have actually said too much at this point, if you know what I mean
(and I think you do)
You appear to be operating under the false assumption that time is linear.
(Hint: It cannot be.)
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Cheshire Human, wishing death on another poster is a violation of the board rules. Please do not do this again.
No warning issued.
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But why? Most history textbooks explain these events. Why is a secret group needed?
Is the League of the Just the same as the Illuminati? If they’re different, how are the different? Is that their official title? And for all of this, how do you know?
You haven’t provided any reason to believe, specifically, in an organization like the Illuminati or any other shadowy group- just cryptic references. Evidence would be things like meeting minutes, emails/correspondence, a secret lair, etc.
Well, indirect evidence would also be evidence, but he hasn’t offered any of that either.
“We’ve plenty of hearsay and conjecture. Those are kinds of evidence.”
– Lionel Hutz
No, I’m still right. You see, here’s how this thread is going to go: You’re going to continue giving non-sequitor “Iran exists, therefore the Illuminati must control the bees” logic, followed up with “I will now respond to Marley” (and then you never do). This nonsense will go on for numerous more pages until the mods get fed up with your bullshit and just lock this down. You’ll probably start a few more threads on the topic, but eventually you’ll piss everyone off enough that the mods will ask you to just stop posting on this topic. All in all, nothing will have been accomplished, many people will have lost hours of their lives, and everyone would have been better off if they had followed my suggestion from the IMHO thread - to just fucking ignore you.
If the OP has a moment, I’d appreciate an explanation of his timecube hypotheses.
I’d probably call those opinions about foreign policy rather than “political beliefs.” “Iran will become a great power” is also a sane and rational opinion that can be supported with evidence (although not evidence about the Illuminati beaming secret messages into your Alphabits).
That’s not your premise. Your premise is that one person runs the world because, uh, Stuxnet and 9/11.
Kozmik, I have a genuine, sincere question here, and I would be honestly fascinated to hear a truthful answer from you. To make it easy for you, I’ll do it as a multiple choice question. All you have to do is say A, B, C, or D. No further explanation or clarification from you is needed. This is not mocking or derision. I’m actually curious about this.
Here is the question. Which of the following statements would you say is closest to your true feelings about this thread? I’m not saying that any of them are 100% accurate - just which one is closest?
A: This thread has gone well. I feel that I have gotten my message across, and it has been received. I have spread knowledge in the world.
B: I have done a fine job communicating my message, but for some reason, people don’t seem to be understand simple arguments and statements that are to me clear as day. I can’t figure out why that is.
C: I have done a fine job communicating my message, and it is my belief that the majority of the people arguing against me actually DO know that I am right. They feel the need to act as if the things I am saying are not true for some other motivation, whatever that motivation may be.
D: This thread has not gone well. I have tried my best to communicate my message, but it appears that I have failed to do so. I know that these other people are intelligent enough to understand what I want to say, so it looks like it is my ability to communicate clearly that is at fault.
Please, if you only respond to one post next time you log on, make it this one. I’d really like to know.