I pit the derisive, condenscending, anti-conspiriacy ... [merged threads]

I’m interested in an answer to Smeghead’s question as well.

So - the Illuminati is all of us.

Where are my bonus checks? Can I write my own?

You mean non-sequitors, uh, opinions you disagree with like these:

I also believe that China and India will become superpowers.

I respecfully disagree. The most powerful person on earth is a power-unto-themself.

By virtue of being the head of government of a superpower (currently the only superpower in the world), Barack Obama is, perhaps, the most powerful person on earth. The September 11, 2001 attacks indicate that the head of government of a superpower is, perhaps, not the most powerful person on earth. If Barack Obama is not the most powerful person on earth than someone else, perhaps, is the most powerful person on earth. If someone else is the most powerful person on earth than there is, perhaps, an entity that is above the 192 governments. If there is an entity that is above the 192 governments then that entity would be a hyperpower.

There is an entity that is above the 192 governments. That entity is the Illuminati.

Since, “The September 11, 2001 attacks indicate that the head of government of a superpower is, perhaps, not the most powerful person on earth.” is where the “nonsense” begins, “By virtue of being the head of government of a superpower (currently the only superpower in the world), Barack Obama is, perhaps, the most powerful person on earth.” is where the mundane observations stop.

How did I know what the anti-CTers would view as mundane observations and what the the anti-CTers would view as nonsense?

The Great Man Theory. :rolleyes:

That’s not even close to what the “Great Man Theory” says. Are you being genuine here?

Tell me. Seriously, tell me. What is the Great Man theory?

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You mean non-sequitors, uh, opinions you disagree with like these:

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See, you’re doing it again. You just added a colon, which indicates you’re going to list some of the things you think I’m talking about, then you run off in another direction. I’m not going to go back and dig up a dozen of your bullshit non-sequitor, stream-of-consciousness brain diarrhea posts, because we already have 14 pages of that.

This is easily shown to be false, so your whole world view comes crashing down. He’s running for re-election and stands a roughly 50% chance of losing, he’s clearly not a power unto himself.

As lots of folks have said, this is nonsense. You are equating “most powerful” with “ultimate power” and the two are completely different. No one (other than you) believes that the president of the only remaining superpower is all powerful, so the 9/11 attacks (and all other terrorist attacks in the history of the world) don’t suggest anything about higher powers.

But since you’re not listening to anyone else it’s pretty pointless.

From your link:

So, once again, you’re wrong.

None of that makes any logical sense.

No- it just indicates that the head of government of a superpower is not all-powerful. And it’s not just 9/11- every single negative thing, from whether Barack Obama’s eggs are overcooked to a slow economic recovery demonstrates his lack of omnipotence. It wasn’t just 9/11- we’ve always known that our leaders were not all-powerful.

You have not demonstrated that this is so.

:dubious:

You don’t have to do that:

my political beliefs

(Hint: You’ll agree with what’s in blue and you’ll disagree with what’s in red.)

I’m listening to you.

Instead of quoting from the Wikipedia article and saying “you’re wrong”, why don’t you explain The Great Man Theory and what is has to do with my argument.

That’s like me quoting from a Wikipedia article and saying “I’m right”.

That’ like what Loach did in the post after yours.

Here’s an analogy about how “most powerful” does not necessarily equal “all-powerful”:

Imagine a large forest full of bears, wolves, cougars, deer, and other animals. There is a huge, old grizzly bear who is the mightiest and most powerful beast in this forest. The bear generally can go where he wants, and eat what he wants, and mate with who he wants. One day he comes accross the carcass of a big elk and starts to eat it. A single wolf comes by for scraps, but the bear scares it off. Then two wolves charge in, and the bear has to rake one with his claws before they run away. Then four wolves dive in, and the bear has to take this threat seriously, he rears up and displays, and scuffles for a few minutes with the wolves. He drives them off- he’s still the biggest and most powerful beast in the forest- but when he turns back, the elk carcass is gone. While he was fighting, a crafty cougar snuck in and took the carcass and hid it- and the bear can’t find it.
The bear is still the most powerful beast in the forest- but he’s not all-powerful, and things still might not go his way.

In the same way, Obama (or any Prez of the US) can be the most powerful man on earth, but bad things- even very bad things- can still happen to America, whether they were put into motion by state actors or non-state actors.

Kozmik, have you had a chance to answer Smeghead’s question yet?

Why are you quoting yourself? None of this stuff is an argument. These are assertions unsupported by evidence and unconnected to the basic facts you are posting.

As far as I’m concerned, this is another big honking sign you’re experiencing delusions. Rational people don’t fall back on quoting their arguments this way. What are you thinking here? “If I repeat myself often enough, they have to see the light!”

You don’t think that

Why not?
I believe that

Do you? Why? Why not? What is wrong with my assertions?

Why yes?

As has been repeatedly told to you, these aren’t “political beliefs” but beliefs about who rules the world.

But Marley23 did an infinitely better job explaining it:

I guess you’re not bored anymore, Alessan.

Alright, fine. Those are beliefs about who rules the world.

Conspiracy kooks would be a lot less aggravating if they weren’t so smug. They’d still be wrong, but they’d be much less intolerable.

Right. So we’re not rejecting your ideas on politics which are as valid as anybody else’s and whatnot. We’re rejecting your rambling, random conspiracy nonsense because of its incoherence and lack of evidence.