I pit the short bus passengers who previously owned my house

In my last apartment, there were two, count 'em, two, electrical outlets in the kitchen. This in an apartment building that was new when we moved in in 2003. I suspect the architectural firm of Muldoon & Perry was involved…

Check out Home Inspection Nightmares for many photos of stuff like we’re discussing in this thread.

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I think the moral of this story is, always have somebody with the sense of humor of a 12-year-old boy check out any renovations you do. If anything makes them snicker, re-do it. I could make myself available for this, as I enjoy poo, piss, fart, and willie jokes, but I don’t work cheap.

I tried emailing you, but it didn’t work. Email me.

DIY roofers suck. We just had to replace our entire roof, including ripping off the old stuff, because the last owner just laid shingles down without any ice protection or starter strip or anything. The roof looked new because the shingles were new, but when it snowed ice got in the soffits and we had ice and water coming down the walls in the house.

He also did the tile work in the house, including tiling up the sides of the kitchen cabinets (truly, WTF) and not tearing up the old floor first. Nothing like tiling over carpet and linoleum to give your floors that nice uneven look. There is a step up into the kitchen because of all the old flooring underneath. Soon we will commence to rip all that up, not looking forward to it though.

I have something similar – a closet with a slide-bolt on the outside. Yep… I think the previous owner used to lock his kids in the closet. To be sure, the walls of it are covered with their scrawl.

I’ve posted this before but this thread is such a perfect match I just can’t resist posting it again!

Of course, before we purchased our house, we lifted the corners of the wall to wall broadloom to check the flooring beneath. Our house being over 100 yrs old we were not surprised to see hardwood in many rooms. But just because it looks okay in the corners is no indicator of the over all condition.

The owner tried to convince me that the 40 yr old broadloom was ‘still good’ as it was such high quality when purchased - not! It was hideous and was removed the second day we lived here.

The woman we bought from had lived here for 42yrs. For 40 of those years the hideous wall to wall broadloom covered this;

Can you imagine how surprised we were when we tore up the carpet? :eek:

WOW!!! Gorgeous floors – congrats! :smiley:

When your house is 200yrs old, there’s been ample time for dubious “improvements.”
The people we bought the Great White Money Pit off of were long on ambition and short on know-how. And money. And motivation. And patience. They were only there for three years, and they started a whole bunch of things and left them unfinished for us to enjoy.

Let’s see. . . working my way from the bottom going up. . .
When *they * bought the place, the last owner didn’t heat it or shut off the water during the winter. The pipes burst, flooding the finished half of the basement and the full bath down there. So that’s gutted. From the remnants, I can see that it was no great loss. Cheap panelling, linoleum glued directly to the concrete floor, nasty bathroom fixtures.

In one end of the basement, you can see daylight through what’s left of a header beam (I believe that’s what it’s called).
The header had, at one point, been holding up a deck that was added some time in the 80’s from the looks of it. The deck wasn’t attached to the header properly - it was nailed instead of bolted. So the deck fell off. It’s hanging lopsidedly from the remaining support posts. We can’t take it off because it wraps around the corner and is our access to the kitchen door.

Mmmm. . . the kitchen. It has no ceiling. The last owners removed an ugly dropped ceiling and never got around to putting up a new one. They also incompletely stripped wallpaper and painted over it with bright schoolbus yellow paint. They stripped off what looked like a layer of sheet vinyl flooring that was on top of real linoleum that was on top of the original pine floor (this is the “new” part of the house, added in 1920). The pine floor is cracked and torn and in some spots you can see through to the basement. I’ve got **Anne Neville ** beat - I’ve only got one outlet in my kitchen.

They did the incomplete wall paper strip on pretty much every room of the house. The wall paper was very ugly, I am told, and I believe it because they didn’t strip behind the radiators. The plaster is a wreck. When they got tired of stripping wallpaper (but not always before all traces of it were gone) they painted over it with a large variety of “oops” paint, which they kindly left behind for us in the basement. I think there’s about 10 gallons left. The paint cans are rusted and leaking.

After a long hard day of wallpaper stripping and painting, they appeared to relax by the fire. We’ve got six fireplaces, only four of them lead to chimneys (the third chimney fell off when the roof was replaced in the 80’s). They never had the chimney they used inspected. The fireplaces are missing their firebox floors. I learned this when I cleared out the ashes they left us and found a collection of garden bricks stacked on top of a piece of singed paneling directly on top of the floor joists. Sitting directly under that in the basement was a wicker etagere that would have made great kindling had the fire made it all the way through.

They removed great quantities of carpeting, but did not do anything with the hardwood underneeth, nor did they replace the quarter round where necessary.

They stripped the paint off a large portion of the woodwork in the original front entry. It would be beautiful had they
a) finished stripping all the paint off
b) not slapped on massive, dripping quantities of dark brown PolyShades.

The uncarpeted the stairs. The treads are a wreck. Many of the spindles in the railing were missing. There’s a bucket of replacement spindles in the garage, salvaged from another old house. So the ones that are installed are randomly unpainted, or painted in great gobs of flat white paint. In fact most of the trim that was not refinished was painted in great gobs of flat white paint.

Except the den downstairs. Its pocket door is a cheap luann door painted the same terracotta red as the hallway. One of the walls is actually a piece of plywood painted to match. There’s a gaping 4’x4’ hole in the ceiling in the den beneeth the gutted bathroom (more on that later). Under the hole is the beginings of a poorly roughed in half bath that never got finished. The rest of the den has been painted pink and green and “antiqued” which makes it look filthy no matter how much you scrub. The mantle in the den, like the two in the great room, is slathered in red PolyShades.

Upstairs the fun continues. One of the two bathrooms is a gutted shell. From the looks of it, this was not necessarily a bad thing, except that I have no place to bathe my children other than the clawfoot tub that’s jerry-rigged in the basement. My youngest fell through the hole in the floor in this bathroom and was saved from falling 10’ into the den when her jumpsuit caught on the plumbing.

One of the children’s rooms was painted purple, but not all the same purple. And the trim was turquoise and pink, but not done with any sort of straight edge, and the ceiling was turquoise. All though the house, nail holes and cracks in the plaster were spackled, but no spackle was sanded. There are lumps and clods under the paint everywhere. The radiator was inexplicably missing in this room. Combined with the original 1810 windows made for a cold room until we got it replaced.

The other children’s room is dark blue, but we’re not using this room right now. There are holes in the walls, and the last owners uncovered the old fireplace that had been plastered over, but they never did anything to finish it. It’s just a wall with most of its plaster missing and a bricked over fireplace in the middle. The gutted bathroom was carved out of this bedroom in the 1920’s. (the children of the house signed and dated the wall board)

The remaining bathroom is disgusting. It had shreds of urine soak flooring and plywood when we moved in. There are holes in the walls. You can see through the floor down into the kitchen in spots (remember - no ceiling in the kitchen). The wood around the shower stall was completely rotted, and there was a good rotted spot going under the toilet when we moved in. The only electric outlet does not work.

There was once a water leak outside the bathroom. The roof has been fixed, but the ceiling is a mess, as is the hardwood floor in that area. The walls are wrecked from the shower installation.

There is a fourth bedroom that is empty right now. It will someday be a nice, big, new bathroom. It has half of a dropped ceiling remaining. The half that remains covers a 6’x4’ hole in the ceiling.

The master bedroom, as the bathroom, was texture plastered by the previous occupants. Then it was painted dark, glossy eggplant purple, almost black. Then red, blue, and gold swirls were painted free-hand all around the top. The back of the door is bright red, with swirls. The door is disintegrating. The trim was beige and gold. There is no door on one closet. They uncovered the fireplace without finishing it here, too.

Up in the attic we were told there was insulation, but we were lied to. It’s only over our bedroom. The wiring in the house is a wreck, courtesy of the DIY ambitions of two occupants ago. There are no working overhead fixtures upstairs, and only about 1 in 5 outlets works.

The gutters are rotted and falling apart. We got an estimate on tearing them down and replacing with aluminum (the least expensive option) that would buy me a really nice new car. The roof will need to be replaced in less than 10 yrs. I’m hoping we’ll make it at least 5.

There is a gorgeous, huge, deep wrap-around porch. The entire beadboard ceiling is rotting. The whole exterior needs to be repainted. The yard is a wasteland.

I love a challenge, but I question my sanity weekly.

Woah. Solfy, looks like no-one is gonna top that. :eek:

Solfy, I would definitely watch a TV series about the renovation of your house.

The house I’m in now is new, but I did find a hex key and a wad of tape lodged inside my shower drain.

Could it be that both of them still lived in the house, even after the divorce papers were filed? They probably kept the belongings most precious to them in their locked bedrooms so the other couldn’t destroy them. How sad! :frowning:

Or maybe they rented out those rooms? I’m sure I’m not the only one who has wanted a door that locked on the outside in that situation?

Had they not been divorcing, that is what I would have suggested. :slight_smile:

OK, now you’ve aroused my prurient interest. Exactly what led you to buy this magnificent building? Or was it imposed on you as part of some plea bargain?

No way they rented these bedrooms. My home is a small, 70 year old colonial with one bathroom upstairs. By the time we viewed it, hubby’s crap was thrown downstairs in the basement. I guess he could have shared the master with his wife at the time but I seriously doubt it. Their toddler son was using a second bedroom.

We in our family made up our own narrative. Hubby was an NYC cop (when we did the walk through his gun case, gun and bullets were part of the ceiling high pile of crap in the basement. We thought it was very strange to have that stuff sitting out there like that) who hated the sun, hence all the heavy vertical blinds, duct-taped windows and, oh yeah, plastic sheeting over the front door that has a decorative window. He liked to play with his gun and so the wife installed the locks to keep his crazy ass out.
Ya wanna know something else? Nobody liked him. I’ve had perfect strangers come up to me and tell me that he was a no good cheat and a bad neighbor he was. One day when I was coming home from work there was a county police car in front of my house and two cops standing on the grass in my front yard talking to some man I’d never seen before.

“Is there a problem?” I asked.
“Do you live here?” asked one of the cops rather snottily.
“Yes, I do.”
“Oh!” and they moved away.

So he let the local cops use his front walk as an interrogation site too?

And so, to make a short story even longer-- I don’t think they rented the rooms.

Another from the other side, for I feel bad for the people that bought my parents’ old house and discovered:

-The storage freezer, washer and dryer all in the utility room are too big to fit through the doorway. Originally, it was part of a 3 room apartment, and we closed up one of the doorways, but didn’t realize until later what the dimensions of the appliances were.

  • The addition is sinking or the house is sinking. I don’t know which, but there’s a bump in the kitchen floor where the two meet. We’re sorry. It was a bad contractor.
    -I am directly responsible for anything bad behind the drop ceiling in the room next to the utility room, unless it’s plaaster from the original ceiling. But that related to the leaks we told you about in…
  • The flat roof above the 4th bedroom. We’ve tried every fix known to man to fix the leak. Probably why it looks like shit up there. Originally, it was a balcony before the pine trees grew so large. Now it’s too dangerous to really stand on.
    -The basement stairs. Yeah, we really didn’t know what we were doing. Our bad, but better than what we replaced.

On the up-side, the electrical is perfect, and all the switches are new. We left the 1930’s push button one for the front porch because we thought it looked cool. And, we left the all-cedar door in its original condition because it still looked good. I noticed you painted it bright blue. Thanks. I hope your washer AND freezer go bad.

My parents inflicted upon me at a young age the sickness that is the love of rehabbing old houses. I grew up in a 120yr old victorian that was, at the time we moved in, three hideous apartments. Drywall dust gets in your blood.
I suppose I should list the good qualities of my current home, although they’re shorter and less interesting than the bad bits.

It was built in 1810, which is fun. My husband and I make a game of playing "our house is older than. . . ". For instance, when my house (or portions of it, really) was built, Beethoven was alive and kicking. My husband found a penny dated 1867 in the yard.

The last owners did all the legwork of tracking down every previous owner and the documented history of the place. My favorite story: The man who built the place (or had it built) died and split his property between his son and daughter. The son got the northern half of the land, the daughter, Sarah, got the southern half where the house is. She married. Later, there is record of her now ex-husband signing the house over to her. The reason? He got remarried. To her sister.

There is a local cemetary and small history museum in which some of the past occupants are buried. The people we bought the place off of swear that it is haunted. They had it blessed by a priest, which, “made it quieter, but they’re not all gone.”

Asside from historical interest, the house is over 2000sq ft, which is double the place we were living. It’s in the same excellent school district and located on a quiet dead-end street. (they built nine small ranch houses around it in the 1960’s)
The lot is nice, gently sloping (a big plus in Pittsburgh) and almost 3/4 of an acre. It’s wooded in the back.

It’s got a 2 car detached garage (there’s no electricity out there - two owners ago they tried to run a line out that was not up to code) that needs a new door. (oops, trying to stay positive!)

The layout is really nice. The kitchen is large. The den is large (we will be consuming part of it for a powder room). The great room, our combination living/dining room, is 20x30 with a fireplace at each end. The downstairs has 10’ ceilings and much original woodwork. The windows still (mostly) have their original wavey glass. The original entry way is intact, with sidelights and a transom. The bedrooms upstairs are huge and each have fireplaces (sort of) and ample closets, with exception of the fourth room (destined to be a new bathroom). Well, the 2nd kids room is smaller until we get that gutted bathroom out of there. The whole house has oak floors except for the kitchen. The basement is a walk-out, and the finished side is dry as it is above grade (the other side will be dry when we replace the gutters). A new concrete floor was poured in the 70’s, and the ceiling isn’t too low down there.

Everyone loves the porch. It’s about 10’ deep and wraps around most of two sides of the house. The deck on the back will be nice if we can get it horizontal again.

The last owners put $20,000 into a new high efficiency boiler. I wouldn’t have touched the place were it not for that, as the house is essentially a big wooden tent.

Perhaps most importantly? It was the only way we’d get a 3 bedroom 2.5 bath (eventually) 2000 sq ft house with 2 car detached garage, finished (eventually) basement in a great location for a *really * terrific price. Being handy persons, we think (hope?) we’re up to the task of doing the majority of the work ourselves. (read: I am a masochist and will never take a nice vacation again)

I’ve got a love/hate relationship with my house, but it’s got good bones. And it needs me.

Hi, neighbor!

I’m jealous- I just wore myself out last night dragging a huge flowerpot that was left to us by the previous occupants of our house out for the trash. The plants in it died, and this winter’s weather made the pot crack. Our trash gets picked up from the alleyway behind our house, which is higher than the house. On trash day and when there’s ice, I wish we had a less sloped lot…

I figured this was why. You can change stuff like “the kitchen has no ceiling”. You can’t change the location of the house.

Yeah, but your house is much older. It makes some sense that there would only be one outlet in the kitchen- at the time the work was done, people didn’t have the kitchen gadgets that they do now. The builders of our apartment complex don’t have that excuse. They knew when they were designing the place that most people who would be living there would have a toaster or toaster oven, a food processor, a coffee maker, and so on and so forth.

I know it has been a week or so, but what did you do? How does one tactfully say, “Get your stuff out of the house you no longer own so I can move my stuff in”?

Regards,
Shodan

My friend bought a Victorian, apparently from a woman who was fascinated by wallpaper. Or the color Lilac. The layers in one room went: Lathe&plaster/blue paint/fake white wood paneling/textured wallpaper/white paint/fake blue wood paneling/a different texture wallpaper/lilac paint.
The blue wood paneling had a newspaper from 1963 between it and the lilac painted wallpaper, so it’s a toss up if that’s when they did it or if it was lying around.

The nice thing was the radiators that were original to the house. The friend had a local company mediablast them to get the paint off and found this beautiful ornate metalwork underneath. I mean it looks like corinthian columns and scrollwork over much of it. Totally made up for the non-functioning doorbell.

:sniffle: So…:choke: beautiful!

Howdy! Many of my coworkers moved here from central Ohio where the R&D center had previously been located. They relate being baffled as to why someone would put “Mostly level lot” as a bonus when listing their house. Aren’t all lots level? :slight_smile:

In our case, you have the realtor explain to them that the price for continuing to live in the house that they just sold to you will be $1100/month for the first month, increasing to $100/day each day thereafter. And you get it in writing.

We made an offer in February. They accepted in early March. The closing was scheduled for the first week of May. As of the last week of April, the sellers still hadn’t found anywhere else to live. We ended up being landlords for a month.