I Think I Know Why God Doesn't Heal Amputees

Counter argument- Howzabout

G-d does NOT answer all prayers. I do not know why.

However, your argument still fails. If G-d can NOT heal amputees, why does He not Prevent the amputation in the first place?

The insulting of beliefs is allowed in most cases, yes. I didn’t see anyone call you a liar, but if you believe someone else is breaking the rules, please report the post.

I’m being entirely serious. Likely enough, you and I agree on more things than we disagree on.

Huh? I didn’t claim you’ve never provided cites.

I’m referring to your cite in this post;

To which I pointed out;

Geepers if G-d can NOT heal amputees, doesn’t this make Him limited and render Him non omnipotent?

God can not commit sin. Does that make Him limited as well?

Inasmuch as god wrote the book on sin, and defines sin as he wishes, the answer is “Yes”.

Technically speaking…yes.

This is basically a variant of the classic paradox about any god creating a rock so heavy he couldn’t lift it (wiki link).

There have been various proposed solutions to this paradox. None have been all that compelling. And, of course, there was the solution my Sunday School teacher provided, which amounted to, “Don’t ask such silly questions”.

Well stating that I make false claims is the equivalent of calling me a liar to me. If the actual use of this particular word violates board policy, I do apologize and will refrain from its use.

Lobsters can regenerate limbs. Does that mean their faith is strong? :smiley:

Medical miracles don’t happen. Unlikely events happen. If medical miracles happened, people would regrow limbs.

If medical miracles happened, people would heal instantly. What happens, is sometimes when someone is gravely ill, they get better. Our bodies are trying to get better, and sometimes we luck out against all odds.

I’ll note that non-Christians also get cancer remissions and unlikely survivals. So assuming that it’s your particular God is unfounded, even if you were to accept it as a miracle.

How so? It had an open ended date. If I write, “A war will start between the dragon and the eagle”. Eventually it may come to pass. What makes prophecy worth noting, is if it gives actual information like when something will happen. Jews have been wanting a homeland for a long time. And there was a movement to make it happen in the beginning of the last century. After the holocaust, it gained momentum.

Modern people re-created Israel. It wasn’t magic, and it wasn’t God.

In what way is drowning untold thousands of babies not a sin?

Just as general advice on this; it’s ok to say someone is making false statements, to an extent, because there’s always the possibility that they’re doing so mistakenly, out of no deliberate choice of their own. Whereas “lying” implies they’re making false statements while knowing they’re false statements.

Yes, yes it does.

I believe in a loving, compassionate* G-d who chooses not to sin.

  • Yes, this leaves me with problems like “How could He allow evil?” and “How could He allow suffering?”. We’ve had some good threads on those problems.

Saying that someone said something incorrect is not the equivalent of calling someone a liar, at least as far as we’re concerned on the SDMB. However you’re not allowed to say that someone is deliberately making false statements. I hope that helps.

I’m perfectly fine with the solution that God’s intelligence is so vastly superior that our limited brains can not comprehend it all. Just the concept of God never having a beginning or ending is hard to grasp. Our minds need a beginning and ending.

I certainly couldn’t dismiss God because He doesn’t fit nicely with modern day logic and reasoning puzzles. Who knows, 1000 years from now, our science and reasoning may appear so primitive to humans in the future.

The problem with this argument is that it works across the board. You can say that God is above logic and reasoning puzzles - but that means he’s above logic and reasoning puzzles. So he can be a great good and a great evil; logic constrains those two possibilities from being the case in the same being, but not so for a being above logic.

Why? God tortured Job’s family. God murdered the population of the world via drowning. God mind controlled the Pharoh and then punished him.

God commits sins all the time. Unless they don’t count for him.

The God of the bible isn’t anywhere near omnipotent. He took six days to create the world and needed rest. He asks questions. Needs to work through intermediaries. He creates a system that dooms everyone to hell, and in order to fix it has to inseminate a human, be born, and get tortured to death. Needless to say, an omnipotent being wouldn’t need to go through such a series of stupid nonsense to achieve his desired ends.

Omnipotence means he can create with a whim.

Hey, pal, you’*re *the one who started trying to inject some reasoning and fit what limited knowledge of biology you possess into the whole proceedings, remember ?
If you’re going to fall back to the “mysterious ways, can’t understand” dodge when people try to inject ever so slightly more of both, then once again, what’s the point ? Might as well just tell people to STFU, just accept everything and nevermind if it doesn’t make any sense. Why even bother trying to understand it yourself, if you’re so sure it’s impossible ?

Jesus promised an end to all suffering. Odin promised an end to all frost giants.

Haven’t seen any frost giants lately :smiley:

Show me a cite from either Edda where Odin promises such a thing!