Right. He is always attacking them. :rolleyes:
Well, I guess that’s one, but it’s about the most uncontroversial thing imaginable. Nowhere near any of the things John McCain got done by reaching across the aisle.
So now we know. Obama will do bipartisanship if it’s easy, but not if it’s hard. But JOhn McCain already found that out when he tried to do lobbying reform with Obama and the party leadership told Obama to stop working with McCain.
Wow, does the goalpost moving get any more blatant?
He also had the Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act of 2006 and Strengthening Transparency and Accountability in Federal Spending Act of 2008 with Senators Coburn and McCain.
He cosponsored the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act with McCain.
There’s a few others, but I’m sure you’ll move the goalposts on those too.
I think Hillary’s age alone is going to be a deal breaker. She’ll be pushing 70 come inauguration day (if my math is correct given an Oct 26, 1947 birthday). Only the Gipper was older when he took office. Average age is 55.
Well, Clinton has a much stronger record in that regard, so if you’re looking for someone to be tougher with Republicans than Obama you’ll be disappointed. Triangulation is about to come back with full force.
Which party told which politician to stop working with who?
McCain has the courage to not listen.
That isn’t what he asked you.
And who is anyone going to “triangulate” with? Ted Cruz? John Boehner? Rudy Guiliani, perhaps, or Donald Trump? The Republicans who aren’t utterly batshit are so afraid of the ones that are, they might just as well be just as crazy. How do you reason with people who don’t actually believe in reason?
When he was an Illinois state legislature he was a legend for reaching across the aisle. Example: the death penalty. Yeah, the death penalty: one of the most ideologically hardened issues in the country.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/08/AR2007020802262_pf.html
Obama has treated the Republicans with kid gloves. What happened is that McConnell et al met before his election and decided on a policy of wall to wall obstructionism, despite the fact that we faced the worst financial crisis since WWII. McConnell was apparently the first politician to have the insight that bipartisanship disproportionately benefited the party in power. So he would have none of it, and he got the GOP to go along. In a single house parliamentary system that wouldn’t be a problem. But that’s not the sort of constitutional framework we’ve inherited.
There’s no one left among the Republicans to triangulate with. Obama has, recently, only attacked the Republicans because that’s the only reasonable response.
Jeezus, you asked me to give you one instance, and then punctuated your request with “Just one.” And I give you one, and you go off on some rant trying to turn it into a negative. I guess I know your agenda.
Your response reminded me of an episode of some sitcom where the wife accuses the husband of not helping around the house. he of course insists that he does. She says, “Name on thing that you do!” “I make pancakes! Blueberry pancakes!”
And you remind me of the right-wingers who turn on any Republican that works with a Democrat in Congress and takes them out of office in a primary. Which is why Bob Bennett is now playing shuffleboard and Mike Lee is in the Senate foaming at the mouth.
It’s interesting that the two GOP Senators Obama worked with, Lugar and Hagel, are both gone. Lugar was purged, and Hagel was fed up with dealing with the looneys in his own party.
Have a good time arguing with yourself… you win every time.
Many of us like Clinton. And almost all of us like Clinton better than Obama. How do ya like them apples?
I’m sure there is some decent overlap between right wing authortarianism and the crazification factor.
RWAs make up about 15-20% of the electorate, and there is overlap between them and religious fundamentalism. In the US they become radical right wingers, in Islamic countries they become pro-militant.
During the democratic elections in Myanmar in 1990 about 20% of the country voted for the party of the military junta.
Yes, the party line now is that Republicans love the reasonable Clintons. I am sure that will be very persuasive to voters who can’t remember the 1990s. Tweens, people who’ve been in comas, the guy from Memento - they’re all voting Republican in 2016.
I like it just fine because it demonstrates how insincere the RW hatred for the Clintons was and that the hatred of Obama is just as phony - and it’ll be the same for Hillary or whoever comes next.
Exactly. As long as the RW continues to equate compromise with losing it will be impossible for any Republican to adopt a position other than obstruction of a Democratic President. All the wailing about Benghazi has gone pretty much nowhere with the public but I am certain we have seen nothing compared to how frantically that drum will be beaten if Hillary manages to get the nomination.
If the nom goes to Cuomo, Biden or whoever, I am certain there will be some manufactured crisis or scandal to provide Fox, Limbaugh & Co. with fodder to keep their base whipped up.
I wouldn’t bet on that outcome. 
Hillary is just too old for the grueling 9 years she would be taking on if she decides to run. She will turn 69 two weeks before the 2016 election. The same age as Ronald Reagan was when he ran.
The presidency is a difficult job for even a young and healthy person. Hillary does not exude health in my opinion. I can’t imagine seeing her out jogging with the Secret Service. And I can’t see her getting through the terms of the job.
Her time was 2008, and it is past.
Really? There has been discussion about this in a number of places, including on this board. There are two major parties in this country Republican and Democratic. Referring to one as the Democrat Party is commonly considered pejorative.