I was assaulted yesterday

[Lord_Ashtar]

@BigT

Yes, because the mods have always been accommodating of calling people liars and saying they deserved to be assaulted.

Please quote the poster who said he deserved to be assaulted.

[twickster]

@FuriousGeorge

Yeah, this is what I was thinking. Given the posting history of the OP in similar situations, his character of “What pray, Brother? Doth thou agrievest me? For thine horseless carriage doth impede my passage to the 24 Hour Fitness. Pray that I might pass with fair praise of thine burliness.” followed by the big, fat villian going completely monkey shit on the peaceful protagonist doesn’t pass the sniff test. So short of calling the OP a liar, methinks there might be a few details either “coloured” or left out.

@VinylTurnip

Gentlemen, please. It’s already been explained that this thread is only for responses of the “you’re my hero!” type. You’ll have to go into another room if you want to discuss what’s going on in this room.

Vinyl Turnip, I’m trying to keep people focused on this incident, rather than launching a personal attack on him, which would belong in the Pit. Expressing skepticism is fine about this incident, calling him a liar, or saying that he deserved to be assaulted because of what he had or had not done, is not. FuriousGeorge stayed on the right side of the line.

@BigT

Yes, because the mods have always been accommodating of calling people liars and saying they deserved to be assaulted.

And, of course, the supervision level of this thread has nothing to do with the previous threads that have been hijacked by people picking on the OP of this one.

BigT, I’ll suggest the same thing to you that I’ll suggest to Vinyl Turnip – leave the modding to the mods.

Thanks,

twickster, MPSIMS moderator

[SmellMyWort]

@voltaire

As I understand the situation, the driver was parked adjacent to the cut-curb, not on top of it. (We don’t generally park on top of curbs in the States, they are usually ~6 inches high.) And it’s not specifically stated, but I assumed that the passenger door where the large man was getting in was positioned adjacent to the cut-curb to ease his entering the vehicle.

Which is why I presumed that it was possible that she was purposefully making use of the cut-curb, instead of just thoughtlessly blocking it for no reason.

That’s a lot of concern for a guy who has no problem walking in and out of the facility on his own and decides to make another trip in just to physically assault the OP.

[Ambivalid]

@FloatyGimpy

The only part of the story that gives me pause is that the gym did not kick the guy out. I find it sort of odd that a giant guy attacking (unprovoked) some one in a wheelchair, severely enough to chuck him on to the floor, would still be welcomed at the gym.

It makes me think that some parts of the story are missing. But even with some parts missing, and even if Jamie called the guy and his wife every name in the book, you still don’t attack someone in a wheelchair.

This is a very recent story. It takes time for these things to make it up the chain of management for a decision to be made. The head manager at the gym wasn’t even made aware of the incident until more than 24 hours after it had occurred; as it happened after he had left for the day. I have a scheduled meeting with him on Monday at 2pm, it will be at that time that further action will be discussed.

[Ambivalid]

@FuriousGeorge

Yeah, this is what I was thinking. Given the posting history of the OP in similar situations, his character of “What pray, Brother? Doth thou agrievest me? For thine horseless carriage doth impede my passage to the 24 Hour Fitness. Pray that I might pass with fair praise of thine burliness.” followed by the big, fat villian going completely monkey shit on the peaceful protagonist doesn’t pass the sniff test. So short of calling the OP a liar, methinks there might be a few details either “coloured” or left out.

I’m sorry that things I write now are tainted by past threads. All I can do is be honest and give an account of what happened. I should have asked for a copy of the police report so I could copy and paste the sucker ;). I am no liar. The only thing I left out originally was that when the car was pulling away and the man yelled out “shut the fuck up you rude motherfucker!”, I did say “fuck you, asshole” in return.

[lieu]

Okay Class, if the vehicle that shouted “shut the fuck up you rude motherfucker!” is headed east at 35 miles and hour and 5 minutes later the one that shouted “fuck you, asshole” heads west at 40 miles an hour, how many minutes pass before they’re 100 miles apart?

[Ambivalid]

@Ambivalid

This was definitely a first for me today. Not so much the fact that I got into a physical confrontation with someone, as that has happened a couple times since I’ve been in a chair, but the sheer unexpectedness and one-sided nature of the confrontation.

Like the title says, yesterday I was assaulted. It happened (of course) right inside the lobby to my gym just after I had arrived yesterday. When I get there and exit my car and approach the front doors, I see a car sitting there idling, completely blocking the cut curb to the front doors. As I was wheeling towards the car, I see a lady sitting there and I motion to her that I need to get by and her car is blocking me. She replies (in a rather obnoxious manner); “Yeah, yeah, I’m moving”, just as some big guy is getting into the passenger seat (it’s dark outside so I can’t see very well).

Before she pulls away, I say “Ma,am, you know this isn’t the best place to park.” As the car starts to drive away, the man (who I didn’t know at the time was the husband), yells out the window, “You shut the f*@k up you rude motherf*@ker!!”

@jjimm

You should be patient because you live within society and sometimes it requires patience, even for assholes. **You said what you said after she moved. ** Needlessly. Your problem: someone parked inconsiderately. Your solution: they move. You already had your solution. Blocking a guy in a wheelchair, they’re already going to know it was a bad place to park.

(bolding mine)

Wrong sir.

[justrob]

@Ambivalid

I’m sorry that things I write now are tainted by past threads. All I can do is be honest and give an account of what happened. I should have asked for a copy of the police report so I could copy and paste the sucker ;). I am no liar. The only thing I left out originally was that when the car was pulling away and the man yelled out “shut the fuck up you rude motherfucker!”, I did say “fuck you, asshole” in return.

Bits like the part I bolded are what people are talking about when they say you leave out pertinent information.

[Ambivalid]

@justrob

Bits like the part I bolded are what people are talking about when they say you leave out pertinent information.

Forgive me. At least I put it in there now. If I was being dishonest or less than candid, I wouldn’t have added it at all. And it’s it at least a bit understandable, considering that I had just been verbally bashed, out of the blue, for no reason at all?? How many people, if they had just been the recipient of “Shut the fuck up you rude motherfucker!”, for saying NOTHING more than “you know, that’s not the best place to park” to someone who was parked across a cut-curb, blocking them from entering a business (in the rain, mind you), would have said what I said? I venture that number would have been slightly greater than zero. Just slightly.

[tdn]

@Ambivalid

And as far as being more patient; it was dark, cold and raining outside and I was waiting for an illegally parked car blocking the cut curb. Why do I need to be patient here? And all I said (I didn’t shout anything, she was right in front of me,she hadn’t drove off yet) was “Ma,am, you know this isn’t the best place to park”. How is this that much different from what you are suggesting?

One is a question, the other a statement. And the statement is a bit judgemental. “Excuse me, I need to use the ramp. Could you back up a few feet please?” would have given you exacty what you needed.

The way you say you deal with situations make you sound pretty confrontational. What happened to you shouldn’t have happened, but there are some crazies out there, and confrontational might just be what sets them off. As you’ve seen.

[Ambivalid]

@tdn

One is a question, the other a statement. And the statement is a bit judgemental. “Excuse me, I need to use the ramp. Could you back up a few feet please?” would have given you exacty what you needed.

The way you say you deal with situations make you sound pretty confrontational. What happened to you shouldn’t have happened, but there are some crazies out there, and confrontational might just be what sets them off. As you’ve seen.

Agreed. Perhaps it was the cold rain soaking my clothes, my hands and my wheelchair that affected my decision-making and led to me being a bit more confrontational than I would have been had I not been made so uncomfortable and had not been so quite so inconvenienced.

[FuriousGeorge]

@Ambivalid

Perhaps it was the cold rain soaking my clothes, my hands and my wheelchair that affected my decision-making and led to me being a bit more confrontational than I would have been had I not been made so uncomfortable and had not been so quite so inconvenienced.

Or perhaps, you are just confrontational, rain or shine, night or day…

Not to say you deserved it. Nobody deserves it. Hell, I don’t care if you are fully upright, ambling about on crutches, in a wheelchair or propped up on a skateboard; no one deserves that. It just seems you are just a generally aggressive, confrontational personality and find yourself in these types of situations more often than your average person.

[justrob]

@Ambivalid

Forgive me. At least I put it in there now. If I was being dishonest or less than candid, I wouldn’t have added it at all. And it’s it at least a bit understandable, considering that I had just been verbally bashed, out of the blue, for no reason at all?? How many people, if they had just been the recipient of “Shut the fuck up you rude motherfucker!”, for saying NOTHING more than “you know, that’s not the best place to park” to someone who was parked across a cut-curb, blocking them from entering a business (in the rain, mind you), would have said what I said? I venture that number would have been slightly greater than zero. Just slightly.

You were being less than candid in the OP. By leaving that bit out the story reads as though the husband came back on his own, that there was no provocation or incitement from your side. Further into the OP you also left it out here…

[QUOTE=Ambivalid]
“Hold on one second, all I did was say to your wife that parking in front of the cut curb wasn’t a good idea.”
[/QUOTE]

That is not all you said. Knowing what I do of your confrontational nature from previous threads I tend to think there was probably something else going on. Did you throw a bitch in there somewhere? Were you yelling right from the start?

Then you come back and mention you left out a fairly important bit like shouting “fuck you, asshole” it definitely makes me need to evaluate what else you might have left out of the story.

I completely understand your yelling that at the moment. This is not in the moment though, if you want people to give your representations of things that have happened the credibility you think they deserve you need to stop with the creative editing of the event.

[msmith537]

@Ambivalid

Not that I’m arguing with you but the police officers at the scene told me that the decision of whether or not to press charges was up to me.

Technically I think the decision to file a complaint is up to you. Since the police didn’t see the incident, they would probably not pursue the matter.

@Ambivalid

And as far as being more patient; it was dark, cold and raining outside and I was waiting for an illegally parked car blocking the cut curb. Why do I need to be patient here?

Um…so you don’t get knocked out of your wheelchair by an angry giant?

[Hbns]

@Ambivalid

Agreed. Perhaps it was the cold rain soaking my clothes, my hands and my wheelchair that affected my decision-making and led to me being a bit more confrontational than I would have been had I not been made so uncomfortable and had not been so quite so inconvenienced.

Now it is raining in the story? When did that start? That seems like a pretty important detail not to mention off the top.

[SciFiSam]

Hmm, I’m still not really getting how parking on the cut-curb makes it easier for people with mobility problems. Maybe if you can park a couple of feet away it would be, and you guys do have much wider roads.

@Hbns

Now it is raining in the story? When did that start? That seems like a pretty important detail not to mention off the top.

Really? Why?

Leaving out the fuck you response is daft - Ambivalid, dude, you should have learnt by now to include everything you said, or it’ll make you seem like a liar. But it was in response to being told to fuck off, so it’s not like it came out of nowhere.

It’s sometimes hard to know where to draw the line between being confrontational and just standing up for yourself. Backing down is often a good idea for practical reasons, but it also gives bullies free reign to go round telling people to fuck off for no reason at all. If you stand up for yourself and the other person responds by assaulting you, then the fault is still all on them.

[Lord_Ashtar]

@SciFiSam

Really? Why?

Because it helps explain why he needed her to move right away. Otherwise, he could have just been patient and waited a few minutes.

[SciFiSam]

@Lord_Ashtar

Because it helps explain why he needed her to move right away. Otherwise, he could have just been patient and waited a few minutes.

I don’t think that’s terribly important, tbh. You shouldn’t have to sit in the middle of the road waiting for someone to decide to move - it’s not safe, whatever the weather.

[msmith537]

@Hbns

Now it is raining in the story? When did that start? That seems like a pretty important detail not to mention off the top.

He also left out the part about the sultry blonde woman smoking a cigarette who was in desperate need of his help. She looked like trouble. Then again, Ambivalid had seen his fair share of trouble in his day. More than his fair share…

[bengangmo]

@Ambivalid

I’m sorry that things I write now are tainted by past threads. All I can do is be honest and give an account of what happened. I should have asked for a copy of the police report so I could copy and paste the sucker ;). I am no liar. The only thing I left out originally was that when the car was pulling away and the man yelled out “shut the fuck up you rude motherfucker!”, I did say “fuck you, asshole” in return.

The familiar pattern is starting again…

So now the conversation included a “fuck you motherfucker” from our nice polite protagonist…I wonder what other details will come to light as this progresses…