Too start off: my chemistry teacher is a christian and once or twice she slips in something about relgion in her teaching. They are usually just off hand comments. She really doesn’t mean them and says them sort of jokingly, mocking her own failures at comprehension. I usually just laugh and retort with an atheist or agnostic point of view. Well, for some reason, today it got kind of far. We stayed after the bell and just talked about it, with a brown noser supporting her.
Did I mention I live in North Carolina? That will become significant a little later.
Anyways, it started with something, I just do not remember. I do, however, remember the said brown noser saying:
“Well, you just have to believe in god.”
I countered with the overly complex, well thought out reply of “why?”
BN: “Well, you do! Just 'cause! Tell him Mrs T!”
Well, she told me “that if I didn’t then I might go to some place bad.”
We got into a minor theistic debate with her side saying “well, if I am right then look at all I get and if I am wrong what do I lose?” Obviously, you get a wasted life. Also, what if another religion is right and you are sent into a life of eternal damnation, anyways? That is not something you would want to be wrong about. Her reasons for why god exsisted were as follows:
[li]It says so in the bible (My question for her: “Who wrote the bible?” “God.” “God wrote the bible?” “Through people he did.” “What people?” “The ones… that believed in God… who heard god.”)[/li][li]The universe is order (Our current understanding of it says that it isn’t. Quantum fluncations on the sub-Plank scale and all of that. Also, think of entropy [which she taught last year]. I really think everything is random. Anyways…)[/li][li]Hell is hot [/li][li]Because[/li][/ul]
Then a lady came in (North Carolina, remember.) She started talking some major weird stuff. She was a science teacher, no doubt. Her thoughts for me was that, due to the law of conservation of energy, we keep all the energy we had when we were alive, and due to the law of conservation of mass we keep all of our mass. (WHAT?! Wow…)
The whole time I spent trying to establish credibility for other religous ideas whether it be Islam or Agnostic, assuming there would be later debates. It was just amazing that all three people would not listen to my side, no matter what cites I could provide.
When everything was said and done the brown noser said “I just do not want him to be lost” and where my teacher said “yea, I want him to be saved as well.” So she gave me a book complete with a plan of salvation and proverbs about the lord.
(This is not a rant and does not belong in the pit a) because neither one of us was right and b) because it had absolutely nothing to do with the seperation of church and state. It was after school and an Ap class no less.)