Definitely disagree – we saw little enough of Ernie Farina’s work in other films. As a big fan of stop-motion, i loved these scenes.
my personal opinion is that Teminator 1 is far and away the best. It’s filled with lots of hidden dark humor and lots of things that fit together well. It also avoided the whole “machine conquered by the power of love” crap that infects too many otherwise good pieces of SF (including, to some degree, T2). And I hated T3.
Buffed up definitely trumped soft and wimpy from T1. It was a natural progression from a creampuff who had the living shit scared out of her to a tough broad who took no shit and gave no quarter.
Holy screaming fuck. Throw this man away. This may be the only person on the face of the planet that holds this opinion.
I’m flabbergasted. I can’t imagine anyone ever saying that, even in jest.
I just thought of this: I saw The Terminator in the theatre when it came out. A couple of people in an adjacent row didn’t figure out the origin of John Connor until it was stated in the tape recording.
Seriously? Inflato-tits over Ahnold?
My favorite fanwank is that the machines finally managed to dig an old parking ticket out of the rubble of what had once been City Hall, and that was the sole surviving record of Sarah Connor’s whereabouts at a particular point in time. There should have been a scene of Sarah getting the ticket and then flash forward to the future where the tattered remnents of that ticket are found.
In the minority, as in you are the only one? Yes.
I can imagine a remastered version of T1 to clean up the now-seems-cheesy effects, but I don’t personally feel it necessary.
They might replace Arnold’s gun with a walkie talkie.
Yeah, I totally agree with you. That scene freaked me out… And how great is it when Sarah slams her hand down on the Big Red Button?
Um, did you miss how skynet was on a genocidal mission to pretty much wipe out all humans?
I consider T2 on the short list of sequels that surpass the original, T3, not so much but still fun.
I thought they overshot the mark with Sarah in T2 though
I re-watched The Terminator recently, and it’s held up remarkably well, i think.
A young Bill Paxton plays the leader of the punks near the beginning of the film.
Paxton has the distinction of being the only actor to be killed by a Terminator, an Alien, and a Predator.
It’s probably a lost cause, but might I get you to consider that scene had PRECISELY the impact they were going for? It was a cold, horrific act that clearly affected you. This was a machine that had no moral limitations, and was near-unstoppable with current technology. I understand some scenes being difficult to watch, and if you’d prefer to not see it again, or even if you’d prefer that you had never seen it in the first place, but any anger and resentment against the actor is, well, misplaced. Instead, understand that it’s an effectively crafted and performed scene.
See Chronos’ explanation as to why they didn’t know which Sarah Conner to kill. This, incidentally, is quite clearly explained in the movie itself, makes perfect sense, and I’ve never heard of another individual having an issue with it.
I think that, perhaps, the real issue here is that this sort of movie is not your cup of tea.
To explain further my distaste for T2: It felt to me like they were trying too hard to showcase their fancy new computer-driven special effects. It’s like instead of deciding what the robot would be like and what it would do, and then figuring out how to do the special effects to show that, they figured out some cool FX scenes they could create, and then decided what the movie should be to highlight those effects. This was made even worse by how quickly the technology became dated: At the time the previews for the movie came out, we’d never seen anything like it, but by the time I actually saw it, we were seeing that kind of morphing regularly on a weekly TV show. So they were hanging everything on the impressive special effects, that were no longer impressive.
this is why the movie is rated R you know, there should have been someone beside you to explain how it’s all a performance. it’s not real.
I was surprised that the same actress played Vasquez in Aliens and also John’s stepmom in T2.
Henry Fonda shot a kid at point blank range in Once Upon a Time in the West.
Sleezy scumbag Henry Fonda!
This might shed some light on your confusion: it’s the mother of the GOOD guy Arnold is trying to kill. Arnold is the BAD guy in T1. What he does here is supposed to be systematic, mechanistic and horrifying. Oh, and as has been pointed out, the bad guy and his side want to kill every human being on earth, by the way.
Forget Arnold. You really need to concentrate on hating Ralph Fiennes. How’s this for a list of doing unspeakable deeds on film:
Amon Goeth in charge of Auschwitz in Schindler’s List
Lord Voldemort in the Harry Potter series
Pharaoh Ramesses II in Prince of Egypt
Serial killer Francis Dolarhyde in Red Dragon
The god Hades in Clash of the Titans
Considering Arnold came back as a good guy in the second and third terminator movies, Fiennes’ record of evildoing completely blows his away. Have fun hating!
I’m still impressed, frankly, and I don’t understand your objection. The T-1000 does some pretty cool stuff (I still get a chuckle at the instant-turnaround scene after Arnold face-slams Patrick into a boiler). I have to admit, I didn’t even notice the four-hands bit during the helicopter chase, but once I found out about it, I thought it was hilarious and perfectly logical.
Of course, I still think the Genesis demo from Wrath of Khan is pretty cool.
That may be the case, but I still think that they were able to use that new sfx technology in a way that added to the plot. The new Terminator uses his shapeshifting abilities in some very innovative and creative ways. The “morph” effect isn’t just a gimmick, it’s integrated very tightly into the plot.
Contrast with The Matrix. The whole, “pause, rotate, unpause” thing that first showed up there looked really cool, but it didn’t really mean anything. It doesn’t add anything to the story, reveal anything about the characters, or advance the plot. It’s pure gimmick, and could be removed from the movie entirely without changing it in any fundamental way. Take out the morphing sfx from Terminator 2, and you have to completely rewrite the movie.