Irrelevant when talking about CCW as carrying as a cop and carrying as a civvy are 2 entirely different situations and are not comparable. For one the objective is to stop the bad guys actions and take them into custody, for the other it’s to just stop the bad guys actions and nothing more (except maybe to get away from them). Each requires defensive tactics that are entirely unique from each other.
Though probably unintentional, you have brought up something that has been used in arguments against Open Carry. While I can CCW in all 50 states, I prefer open carry and do so whereever legal. I’ve had people argue with me that it makes it easier to be disarmed than carrying concealed but I don’t buy it. Even if it were so I think some of the benefits outweigh that small increase in risk.
They’re unlikely to incapacitate him either. All it would do is escalate the body count when 15 different yahoos all started taking potshots at each other.
I’d like to know how anyone would be expected to know the difference between the lunatic and the wannabe heroes in a situation like that.
I could not agree more. It’s the guys who are too terrified to go to a geology lab without being strapped who are the chickenshits.
Of course, the arument that most of these people carry for self-defense is a load of crap anyway. They carry because they get off on the feeling of carrying a gun. I’d have more respect for them if they would just admit it. I’m essentially pro-gun rights. I think the Dems should back off their gun control bullshit. I don’t have anything against guns and I think it’s a blast to go shooting myself a couple of times a year but the fetishists kind of creep me out and I find them really disingenuous a lot of the time.
I just retired from a police department last month after 25 years on the job (I’ve since taken employment with another, but only part-time). Both agencies policies state that there shall be no amount of alcohol in the bloodstream while carrying a firearm be it on or off duty. My bar hopping days are long past, but if I’m going out to dinner with my wife and intend to have a cocktail I go unarmed.
Normally I carry 24/7 but I happen to believe in that department policy 100%. Booze-n-guns don’t mix! Not for me, not for anybody. I’m pretty staunch about that philosophy.
Wheres that? I know that in Virginia you can carry in a bar/restaurant that serves but you have to open carry in those places. Even if you have a concealed carry permit if you’re in a place that serves liquor you must open carry.
I am not a gun owner but have lived with one in a college environment and my best friend went to college in Boise so he could own “cooler” guns then he could here in California.
I don’t like the idea of college kids running around with guns, even the ones who are more mature then the rest. My best friend is very anal about his guns and keeps them in a gun safe in his apartment with the ammo locked up and no one has the combination, including me and his family. My roommate on the other hand kept his in his sock drawer and slept with a pistol under his pillow, we didn’t live in the best neighborhood. When he moved out I found shotgun shells laying around his closet. Both of these guys are quite mature and I have no problem with them owning guns but it is easy to see how you can’t tell how safe someone keeps their weapons from their personality, my roommate was president of the young republicans and has a CCP. It would be impossible for a person in authority to control how people stored their guns, they couldn’t even stop us from drinking in the dorms.
Guns and drunk college student that’s a scary thought. Especially if you add the basic college drama.
I have heard the deterrent thought before, from both and I’m not sure i believe it your general population will not train enough with their weapon to be able to fire accurately under stressful circumstances. If a shooter believe that he is still more dangerous then his prey I don’t see how it would work. 7% have CCPs already on a college campus where a vast majority will naught be exmilitary or police trained figure half would be able to shoot accurately under pressure. My college was small, 5000 students, so figure 3% of that and approximately 150 kids could defend the rest of us. Even spread over only 8 building that had classrooms not counting dorms, cafeteria, or offices. That leaves 20 kids per building.
Most buildings had three floor so call it 7 kids per floor. Assuming that they carry half the time there are only 3 people who could actually do the job and any floor I want to kill people on. I could still probably kill 30 people before the first shot was fired in my direction. Deterrent I think not.
If I was trying to gain your (or anyone’s) respect by carrying a weapon, why would I carry a concealed weapon. Wouldn’t a long sword, or a pike be more effective for that? I think it’s legal to carry a shotgun around, too. Now that would show the world what a big man I am, wouldn’t it?
Sorry to bust your bubble, Dio, but the opinions of the general public are fairly low on my motivation list. I don’t really get off on it much, either. Of course, I don’t do it all that much, so perhaps it’s all my pistol packing neighbors you are disrespecting.
You misunderstand me. I don’t think they’re trying to impress other people, I just think it makes them feel powerful. Whether other people know they’re carrying is neither here nor there.
Yes, but no one was shooting back which is a diffrent kettle of fish. Not to mention how hard is it to hit a random person in a classroom as opposed to a specific person.