So… am I the only one sitting here impatiently singing: “Bad boy, bad boy! Watcha gonna do when they for you?..”
I’m waiting for the drama. Give me my drama!
Fuck drama! I want my schadenfreude! 
WHA-? Pshaw–that’s ridiculous! Next thing you’ll be telling me is that there is no Santa Claus. Silly Poysyn. You crack me up.
The Santa Claus was repealed during the Reformation. Didn’t you get the memo? It was on the church door.
I’m following this avidly; I’m hoping Dave and GF get their just deserts.
When I left for work about an hour and a half ago, he was in his room playing Halo. I’d think that if he was going to run away, he’d have done it by now.
At this point Dave is a sitting duck, only he’s not quite as smart as a real duck.
The police know you live there too, don’t they? If the police start breaking doors or windows to get in, they should know that in this case it will be the victim who has to pay for repairs, not the perp.
If the officer who normally is in charge of arrests isn’t the same guy as the one you have spoken with, Arresting Officer might even handcuff and arrest you too. You know, under the motto: “Take every young man on the premises and let the Bureau sort 'm out”.
Doubtful. If they come into the house to make the arrest that means they have an arrest warrant for a specific person. They can only arrest the person named in the warrant unless they observe other people commiting a crime at the time they serve the warrant.
Aha. That explains the dialogue:
Police: “Are you Mr. Dave McDumbass?”
Dave: “Depends. Who wants to know?”
Or is every USA inhabitant compelled to carry ID at all times?
I tell you, I’m in awe of your ability to act as if nothing is wrong. I think I’d be trembling with evil glee at the thought of witnessing his arrest, and possibly bursting into maniacal laughter while wringing my hands menacingly.
Yes. Actually, they’re going to call me first so I can let them in the house and lead them up to Dave’s room. The officer that’s in charge now even said that he’d try to call fairly early in the morning when I was still awake after work so that I wouldn’t be bothered having to wake up later to deal with things.
Heh, I guess I’m just desensitized. I mean, I’ve seen one guy I know go down for a double murder, and another (just a month ago) get arrested for raping and impregnating his fucking sister. Compared to that, forgery seems like small potatoes. Granted, this was the first time I was ever the victim of any kind of significant crime, but still, things could be a lot worse.
No, but you can bet anyone who is not Dave McDumbass will be happy to show their picture ID to prove they are not Dave. Plus, most people have a Drivers License, they may choose not to show it or may even not have it but prior to the arrest you can bet the cops accessed Dave McDumbass’s driver record and printed the picture on file or his past booking photo. Believe it or not the cops here are a little past the point of “rounding up the usual suspects” they know that the subject of a warrant will often try to hide his identity and that innocent people may be present when a warrant is executed. I don’t suggest it never happens, I just said it was doubtful.
As I have learned from previous threads, even if you have ID on you you are not generally required to show it (the exceptions being a few states with laws of questionable ability to stand up to scrutiny and traffic stops). They police have, however, developed a method of reproducing the facial features of a person on a thin and easily transportable piece of cardstock that can be used for comparison.
Ah. Not to hijack this thread (again) but in the Netherlands many people don’t have/need a drivers license.
Also, there has been some widespread opposition against having to carry ID on your person at all times. It reminds older Dutch people too much of the permit-carrying laws by the Nazi’s when they occupied the Netherlands. (Personally, I’m in favour of carrying ID). So currently in the Netherlands, the police might encounter a situation like this where none of the people on the premises can (be forced to) show ID.
Here you may not be forced to show ID but if you match the description of the person they are looking for and you refuse to show ID the police certainly can arrest you if only to identify you. If you are not the person they are looking for you will be released unless you gave them false information. While you may, in most jurisdictions exercise your right to remain silent when asked to identify yourself that right does not include the right to give false information which is a separate crime. I merely pointed out the NS was not in much danger of being taken in in this case because I assume he would be willing to identify himself as not Dave.
I don’t know about how it works in the Netherlands, but in the US it’s generally very easy to get a state-issued ID from the motor vehicles bureau, just because there are so many venues, private and public, that require ID these days.
Similarly, it’s been my experience that when police want ID, they’ll be satisfied with anything that shows a photograph, and the name. I honestly cannot think of a single time since I turned 18 that I haven’t had at least two or three forms of photo ID on my person when I had my wallet in my pocket.
Mind you, I think the US has an absolute fetish about ID. But it’s gotten to the point where it’s not really an imposition.
As an mental exercise I once collected enough documents that I would have been able (Back in the dark ages - 1985. I believe that the requirements for getting a driver’s license are a bit more stringent, now.) to get myself a driver’s license for H. David Thoreau, of 3 Author’s Way, Concord, MA. I really don’t have much faith in the power of photo ID, actually.
Sounds like Dumbass may be so stupid that if Neutron sat there going “Mua-ha-ha-ha!” the idiot would think he just had the hiccups.
Dude, where do you live? :eek:
I’m jumping into this thread late, but this post cracked me up.
Laws requiring us to carry around identification, or establishing new ID cards, are generally shot down in Jeffersonian glee (generally–I’m pretty sure it varies by state). But as noted, everyone carries their driver’s license everywhere all the time–it’s just What We Do, and it comes up just often enough that the people who don’t drive go out and get a non-driver ID from the Department of Motor Vehicles when they can. And it’s probably one reason why ID checking for tobacco/alcohol sales is so vigorous–an American is prepared to prove his or her identity at any moment.
The laws of questionable authority usually pertain to random stops or to people in public who aren’t breaking the law. Of course, you aren’t required to produce a government ID for this (since you aren’t required to carry one), but you are required to truthfully identify yourself by name (and usually address).
But those are generic “stop and identify laws.” Rest assured that if the police show up to your house with an arrest warrant, and you look kinda like the guy they’re supposed to arrest, they can and will compel you to produce some kind of identification that shows you aren’t, or they’ll haul you down to the station and sort it out there.