Idiots who pray

Dude, did you read what I wrote? He knows what we want, we need to know what he wants. What, you expect a telegram?

If he goes to a medical professional with years of dedicated education, the training the sum total of human knowledge on the subject scratched away from superstition with meticulous testing while making advances with provable results he might have a chance.

Though to really push this thing over the edge let’s pray too, and perhaps the god they believe in will see the error of his ways and evict the cancer he set on the Cardinal in the first place.

I wouldn’t expect the logistics to be a problem…

FWIW, in Roman Catholicism — presumably the religious denomination which applies for this discussion — prayer has multiple ends. One of these is communion, as I think you indicate, but another is admittedly intercession:

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But this isn’t so much “God, can you do me a solid and cure Jeff’s lupus?” and more, as I understand it, an attempt somehow to participate in God’s mercy (however it shakes out).

And he can’t get what he wants without telling us? What a lame deity. You guys need to pray to something that can do more on his own.

How about a spoiler alert next time. Sheesh!

I’m not religious, but if I were, your sense of humor (such as it is, that stunted little organ) would be in my prayers. Fortunately, the age-old theodical conundrum — the Problem of Stupid People on they Internet, evidential version — convinced me that an omnimax deity couldn’t possibly exist.

How do you know it didn’t create Angels just to have someone to share the laughter? “Oh myself! C’mere Gabriel, do you see what this stupid human wrote! THIS is why I created the Human Race. Those poor stupid bastards are the best entertainment anyONE could ever hope for!”

Sounds like you’re pushing too hard.
Mark

Nope, nowhere did shiftless say that he actually believes his “trying to send some sort of mental help” will “actually affect the outcome”. In fact, he explicitly said the exact opposite of that: namely, “I know it is useless”.

All he was saying was that it’s natural to have an impulse to mentally “push” for a desired outcome by wishing/rooting/hoping, even if you are rationally well aware that it will accomplish nothing. You completely misinterpreted his statement and then gratuitously scolded him for superstitious thinking. Way to fly the logic-and-rationality flag there, champ.

I’ve met him before. If he’s the guy responsible for the shit-in-one-hand wisecrack, he was having an off day.

Showing off how virtuous and religious they are. That’s why they make a point of saying that they are praying, instead of just doing it. They want everyone to know that they are properly pious.

I do wonder sometimes how many of the people who talk about how they’ll “pray for you” actually bother to do so.

CC, how old are you? I’m curious.

(serious question)
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Bullshit. It would have been offensive then too. I don’t know if you’ve heard about Pat Tillman’s last moments before death, as told by his buddy, who was cowering next to him while they were both getting incoming “friendly” fire. The buddy started praying aloud, and Tillman said something like, “Stop your fucking praying. I need you here, now.” In other words, stay focused on dealing with reality.

My mom is a member of several “prayer circles.” She has a standard prayer that she says every morning “for the intercession of others” or something to that effect. So whoever the prayer circle is praying for that day (usually several people) just gets slotted in. Doesn’t take her any extra time at all, really.

One does have to wonder about the supposed benevolence and magnificence of a God who apparently requires people to submit the equivalent of a form letter with someone’s name typed in a different font where the blank spots are.

This just in: religion is not logical.

Amen, brother

Spock could have told you that.

God hates that shit. The sneaky kneel gets the grace.

Movin’ the goalposts much? None of that shit was in the OP.

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