By left wingnut standards they are all right wing capitalist countries of course. None of those countries have the majority of their industries or ‘means of production and distribution’ owned or controlled by the government, however, so they all fail as primary socialist countries…i.e. they are no more ‘socialist’ than the US is, or, put another way, the US is as much a socialist country as any of these. China now…that COULD be a good example looked at that way, since more than half of their ‘means of production and distribution’ are owned by the state. Though, of course, the parts that actually work are the capitalist ones.
This bullshit that the leftist media is pushing, trying to make Sanders look like a gun rights hero is pure propaganda! The more they tell a lie and the bigger the lie they tell the more the masses will believe it!
Sanders has consistently scored nothing better than an “F” grade from both the NRA and Gun Owners of America.
Certainly not socialist an any meaningful sense of the word. Its a hobglob of various levels of government owned stuff, Peoples Liberation Army owned stuff and good oldfashioned 19th century capitalism. They make no pretense of government ownership for the sake of the people. Its for the sake of the party or the army.
Conservatives liked it even less. But that’s an exception that proves the rule. Liberal justices can’t exactly rule against government’s near absolute economic regulatory powers. Unlike purely political actions undertaken by Congress, judicial decisions create binding precedents. Rule against a government power and you forever close off the government’s ability to use it that way again, plus you open the door for other restrictions on government economic power.
Bernie Sanders Democrat - 98%
Hillary Clinton - 92%
Martin O’Malley - 65%
Chris Christie - 36%
Mike Huckabee - 24%
Rand Paul - 23%
Jeb Bush - 20%
Donald Trump - 17%
Lindsey Graham - 16%
Scott Walker - 10%
Carly Fiorina - 5%
Ben Carson - 4%
Marco Rubio - 4%
Rick Perry - 3%
Rick Santorum - 2%
Ted Cruz - 1%
That 2% agreement with Santorum worries me.
My results as a fairly moderate Canadian. The fact that Sanders is at the top does not surprise me at all. I’m a little surprised that Clinton was only 79%. I would have thought she would score higher as well. I actually thought that Rand Paul would score a little bit higher as well.
In terms of Republicans, Graham and Cruz at 30% is shocking to me since I consider their views pretty much completely insane. I am very pleased to see Trump way down near the bottom of the list since he makes somebody like Cruz look credible.
Sanders 93%
Clinton 79%
O’Malley 62%
Paul 52%
Huckabee 46%
Kasich 34%
Christie 33%
Graham 30%
Cruz 30%
Walker 28%
Bush 25%
Rubio 25%
Carson 23%
Santorum 18%
Perry 15%
Trump 13%
Fiorina 8%
No, you don’t get to play the “both sides do it” game with me. Proposals that merely nudge our policy towards those of major European countries get Republicans screaming socialism.
Of course, Bernie Sanders isn’t proposing our government own or control any means of production and distribution, but he’s routinely called a socialist.
I think he’s devaluing the word “socialism” by equating it with social democracy, but considering the standards and Overton Windows of American political discourse, I’m willing to let it go too. Anything is a good thing that rehabilitates the word in this country and renders it a tropic of serious discussion, even hostile discussion, instead of a demon-label, as it is to the OP.
None of those countries have the majority of their industries or ‘means of production and distribution’ owned or controlled by the government, however, so they all fail as primary socialist countries…i.e. they are no more ‘socialist’ than the US is, or, put another way, the US is as much a socialist country as any of these. China now…that COULD be a good example looked at that way, since more than half of their ‘means of production and distribution’ are owned by the state. Though, of course, the parts that actually work are the capitalist ones.