It’s threads like this that make me wish Dio was still here.
Well, obviously, He wanted many versions of the Bible, all slightly different, and some more successful than others…
I can’t wait to here about how “And on the 2,190,000,000,000th day, God created Terror Birds…”
Ah, hell no. This thread would be up to 48 pages by now and 98% of that would be them two going back and forth.
Besides the people responding here have done a great job explaining evolution to reef shark he is just refusing to listen or learn.
and on the 2,190,000,001,204th day they all drowned in the flood.
Which reminds me.
If so many species became extinct during the flood…
What is the creationist’s “explanation” that apparently not all kinds of animals were taken on board the ark?
Doesn’t the bible state that specimens from each animal were brought on board?
Yo dawg, I heard you like conspiracies, so I put a conspiracy in your conspiracy so you can theorize while you theorize.
Darrow and Bryan, in the courtroom.
hmm, I guess it does..
NIV, of course, God’s latest edition.
I ain’t reading this entire thread, but anyone doubting the existence of transitional species should pop on over to Ano Nuevo California to catch the elephant seals.
They can only eat in the water, and breed on land, so cows have to store up food for their entire breeding period. Piss poor design there, God, but makes sense if they are in transition from the land to the sea.
BTW, the Flood may be originally Jewish, but when I learned the Bible in Hebrew school my teachers were smart enough not to even pretend it really happened. And they read Hebrew and didn’t need a translation, unlike some other Bible lovers I can name.
Except, it isn’t.
You lot nicked it from the Babylonians, probably during your little stay there.
Angry? Yes, but not with you. I am absolutely furious with whomever convinced you that you need to ignore the subtle complexities of Nature and the Universe in order to have a relationship with the Almighty.
Can you provide evidence for this claim, please?
He’s thinking of snakes. In whales, those tiny bones are undetectable unless one dissects a dead whale- there is no protuberance in the skin. But it’s exactly what one would expect had whales evolved from four-legged mammals.
I doubt he’s coming back, but he only has one cite anyway:
it’s in there somewhere.
She can also fight back or call for help, while an egg is passive. A small animal that could break through the shell of a “human egg” and eat the contents would find itself smashed with the nearest heavy object if it tried that with a pregnant woman. And an egg isn’t just immobile in itself; it immobilizes one or both parents. A pregnant animal is a lot more mobile than one tied to a nest. And that’s not just good for avoiding danger; it also means that they can move on to better feeding grounds, or follow along with the rest of their nomadic herd/pack/tribe.
I’ve seen other creationists claim that in whales, the bones are used to strengthen the pelvic area during birth. I’ve never seen that claim made by actual scientists, but then I haven’t gone looking for it.
Ultimately, it’s irrelevant, because the structure is still vestigial regardless of whether or not it’s picked up a new, secondary use. Ostrich wings are vestigial even though they’re used for mating, because that’s not the original, ancestral use for which they evolved. Our appendix is vestigial even though it’s picked up a secondary purpose as a home for useful gut bacteria, for the same reason. Creationists, unsurprisingly, have never acknowledged this point that I’ve ever seen. Someone in their community has declared that “vestigial = useless”, and they’ve just picked that up and run with it despite it being completely wrong.
But the creationist will claim that is the current purposes are the only purposes and that the “evolutionist” has failed to prove vestigiality (adding new word to Firefox dictionary). Either that or “but it’s still a bird- it’s macroevolution I don’t accept.”
Sure, but he’s also wrong about any function for whale’s hip bones- and I think it’s important to point out the many facts he’s got wrong.
Gilgamesh and Enkidu, glug, glug, glug.
Utnapishtim, as the waters rose.