If that makes you feel less guilty about you hobby I say run with it…but you are just deluding yourself.
Ok, so. You pay attention to Vogue’s covers? Most people don’t. The TV shows you mention? I don’t watch them or rather their French equivalent. I’m not on reddit.
So we’re left with Yahoo and bait links. Why would you assume that I pay attention to Yahoo news items that don’t interest me about people I know nothing about to begin with? Even worst with bait links. I’m pretty sure you’re ignoring daily tons of Yahoo news items and bait links about topics that don’t interest you and you’re completely ignorant about.
How can it be so hard to understand that you need to be actually exposed to these things, to have a modicum of interest about them, to actively seek them in order to have the knowledge you’re for some reason assuming everybody has?
Frankly, at this point it sounds like people who accuse others of being elitists who just pretend to be able to tell apart two wines, or to enjoy significantly more the food served in an expensive restaurant than a random burger, or to really like black and white movies, or to be unaware of the last results of whatever major sport team, or to not have heard of the last trendy music band and so on.
It’s really the same idea : I can’t tell apart the wines, I find black and white movies boring, I’m exposed constantly to sport event results, my friends all listen to this band, so you can’t possibly be different, be exposed to different things, have different tastes. You have to be a snobbish liar.
And weirdly, nobody on this board is going to assume that for instance someone stating they don’t know the first thing about politics, don’t pay attention to politics-related news items, aren’t interested in politics and as result don’t know, say, who their representant is, are liars. Somehow, everybody is willing to believe you can navigate your life in complete ignorance of politics and politicians, which are similarly all over the news, but that you can’t possibly do the same wrt fucking TV celebrities.
Once again : I’m not exposed to informations about TV celebrities, or if I am briefly I don’t pay attention to them, and I’ve zero interest in TV celebrities, so I don’t look up for such informations either, and as a result I don’t know the first thing about TV celebrities. If you are firmly decided not to believe me, then so be it, but you’re choosing to be obtuse, and to refuse to believe that other people’s experiences could be different from yours.
I vote rat avatar to be not only the winner but the most evolved human being to ever visit this thread.
Can I get a show of hands of those in favour?
If I can live my life ignoring the subjects of celebrity rags in France, an American can most certainly similarly ignore the subjects of celebrity rags in the USA. I’m having the exact same discussion as the OP.
You can put in my field of view as many covers of people’s magazines as you want, I’m not going to remember the story mentioned on these covers if I don’t pay attention to them. Whether I’m French or American doesn’t change a thing. I do not read people’s magazines covers. I do not click on bait links about celebrities. I do not watch TV shows about celebrities. As a result , I can’t know about these celebrities, regardless how much you think I should. How can this concept be difficult to understand?
I wish I was completely ignorant about the Kardashians. So far, I’ve not found a way.
As mentioned earlier, the French are off the hook on this one.
Must I remind you that you pitted ME?
Why do you need universal expectance of your guilty pleasures?
Obviously you are not proud of your interest in the area or you wouldn’t be publicly looking for a pat on a back.
That’s just a way of avoiding my objections. There’s no difference between a Frenchman not knowing about French celebrities and an American not knowing about American celebrities.
It’s perfectly possible to live your life without knowing the first thing about some specific “famous” person. that you couldn’t manage to do so wrt the Khardasian doesn’t mean that everybody else has the same experience. American people who know nothing at all about them might be a small minority, but it’s stupid to assume they don’t exist.
And the evidences proposed to show that they can’t ignore them are completely unconvincing. Like your magazine covers example. Maybe you’re reading every single magazine cover that appears in your field of view, but most people certainly don’t. And accumulating examples of places where you can find infos about the Khardasians doesn’t mean anything. Some people won’t visit the websites you visit, won’t watch the shows you watch, won’t read the magazines you read, won’t click on the bait links you click on. And one of the reasons why they won’t do any of these things is because they have zero interest in them.
And even if they randomly read/heard something about such or such celebrity, it’s probably going to be forgotten by the next day, because again it’s not something that interest them. If you don’t care about baseball, you’re not going to remember who won such or such competition even if someone told it to you once, or if the results appeared on such and such magazine you flipped through. And regardless how many people will tell you that you can’t possibly ignore which team won this competition whose result has been plastered everywhere (according to them) and that everybody knows about (according to them), you still won’t know the first thing about baseball results.
Because I also don’t read celebrity magazines, click on click bait, watch TV shows about celebrities. And yet, I do know who the Kardashians are.
Thus, your statement that “I can’t know about these celebrities” is demonstrably false.
Also, your statement that:
seems to indicate that you do, in fact, have knowledge of the Kardashians that is on par with my own. So, you can (and you do) know who they are.
Indeed. But I don’t know anything about most celebrities, including many that I’m in theory much more likely to have informations about (French ones). Since I know for a fact that I know nothing about even the most famous TV celebrities that “everybody know” here, it would be absurd for me to assume that an American couldn’t not know about some of the most famous American TV celebrities.
Which leads me to believe, unless the USA has some peculiarities I’m not aware of, like a mandatory public reading of people’s magazines before starting every day of school or work, that you’re wrong.
And that you’re wrong isn’t an opinion. It’s a fact. I know with absolute certainty (unless, again, there’s something absolutely peculiar about the USA and the Khardasian specifically, for instance that they get has much reverence in the US as the Kims in North Korea) that people can not know about a very famous TV celebrity because I know with absolute certainty that I don’t know anything about most very famous TV celebrities.
You can believe that I’m lying, but there’s absolutely no way you can convince me that you aren’t wrong. I know you are.
Not really. I pitted Andros and a guy that works with me whose conversation I overheard at the cooler.
You are wrong. I am indifferent about my awareness in the area. However, it is you who deserves a pat on the back for having the ability, nay the strength of mind, to rise above it all.
100% BS, you called me a liar right here.
And a troglodyte. The fact I think something is trite is why I don’t pay attention to it. The fact you think that I think I am better because you have other interests does not indicate I think you should share my beliefs.
But it does show that you need some serious help with self esteem, not everyone has to like what you do. Yet you resort to name calling and accusations of untruthfulness.
The least you could step up and accept the fact you do so but I doubt you will.
Yes, actually, and that post on page 1 is the reason I joined the thread to emphasize the already-pointed-out OJ Trial connection:
Most of my exposure to the ladies in question is from the internet, not tv. Not a lot of Kardashian news during commercial breaks for Better Call Saul.
Oh man, you have missed so much good music!
I think a couple more ‘I think that you think that I think’ will clear the above right up.
Climb down off that high horse before you hurt yourself.
The thing about the internts, almost never is anyone ever speaking directly to you. Mostly it’s just people shouting into the void. Being an expert in avoiding trite things, I probably shouldn’t have to explain it to you. 
Me too. I’m an American in his late 50s, and I recognize all those names except Kardashian. Again, I was here in Bangkok during the whole OJ thing, and it just wasn’t publicized very much here. But I did catch enough news to know those other names but not Kardashian.
The only names I remember today from the OJ trial are OJ (duh), Kato (Green Hornet connection, so it stuck), and Cochrane (because a law firm using his name has TV ads here and the Seinfeld parody). Clark and Ito hadn’t been in my mind at all, but when mentioned in connection to the trial, I remember them. I’m pretty sure one of OJ’s victims, his wife, was named Nicole. I’m drawing a complete blank on the other.
When the trial was on daily, no matter what one was watching, I knew more, though Kardashian’s name was, at best, only in the background. I wasn’t following the trial; I was actively avoiding it. But every show discussed it. Hell, I think they even recut a Gilligan’s Island episode to reference that abomination.
Almost the same here, although F. Lee Bailey is another one I wouldn’t have been able to recognize by name. Mainly, I remember Cochran and Ito from that trial, and Marcia Clark. Robert Kardashian I only “remember” retroactively, via Kim & crew’s fame, but I don’t really remember him at all from the trial.