I'm gonna have to pit all you butt-hurt snowflakes

[Omg_a_Black_Conservative]

@Bryan_Ekers

Where are these quotes coming from?

Sitting quietly on the sidelines has its benefits. There’s a few months worth (more than a year’s worth, actually) of smugness and shit talking from the enlightened leftists of the board.

Not that it matters, really. My comment was about Americans who get butthurt by being called racist, and are willing to torturously and stupidly concoct elaborate rationalizations.

Well, why wouldn’t people get upset at constantly being labeled something they aren’t?

The election of Trump demonstrates a related but distinct expression of American stupidity.

In your opinion. I find it rather refreshing, given the last eight years

@Princhester

Either I don’t understand what you mean or you don’t understand what I meant.

I got what you meant. But let me try this another way. If you believe it’s that easy to accomplish what Trump has, then why aren’t there more billionaires?

@jayjay

Clayton Bigsby, ladies and gentlemen!

Are you calling me an Uncle Tom?

[GIGObuster]

@Omg_a_Black_Conservative

You expect me to care about the rights of people who-- and let’s be honest-- murder others in cold blood? Sorry (not really), but I don’t. You talk, yet you don’t seem to realize that the very same people you’re willing to afford a level of, for lack of a better word, “humanity” to are content to act inhuman.

Of course you stupidly did not see that one cite pointed to what Qaddafi in Libya did to the Belgian Nurses and doctors, and even when properly done as you stipulate here the result was false intelligence that the Bush administration used as justification to to invade Iraq. The point indeed was to show how the powerful depends on sadists like you to keep going with their reprehensible agendas.

One can see that your willful ignorance is the reason for your inhumanity.

@Omg_a_Black_Conservative

This is one step above “I know you are but what am I?”, but not by much.

As I pointed I gave you a choice and you choose the stupid ignorant one. Not my problem if all others end up noticing what you are.

@Omg_a_Black_Conservative

So we’re back to cries of racism? Look, I get that you’re in mourning-- I really do.

[Donald Trump]
Wroooong!
[/DT]

Nah, I’m already involved in the resistance, and it is not the one that is in mourning, but the one that is laughing at weaponized ignorance like yours.

@Omg_a_Black_Conservative

But at some point in time, unless your goal is to whine incessantly for the next four years, you’re going to have to join me in the real world, where everyone you don’t like/disagree with isn’t racist (that word of which no longer holds any real meaning).

And even on that you can not help but to demonstrate you stupidity.

Racism is in reality just an extreme form of ignorance. And it is worse when you are an enabler of it.

[jayjay]

@Omg_a_Black_Conservative

Are you calling me an Uncle Tom?

No. Clayton Bigsby isn’t an Uncle Tom. He’s a literally blind idiot who doesn’t realize that the policies and political opinions he spouts are detrimental to himself.

Besides, I’d have to believe you were actually African-American to consider you an Uncle Tom.

[Omg_a_Black_Conservative]

@GIGObuster

Of course you stupidly did not see that one cite pointed to what Qaddafi in Libya did to the Belgian Nurses and doctors, and even when properly done as you stipulate here the result was false intelligence that the Bush administration used as justification to to invade Iraq. The point indeed was to show how the powerful depends on sadists like you to keep going with their reprehensible agendas.

One can see that your willful ignorance is the reason for your inhumanity.

FWIW, I’ve also said on this board that I do not and never did support the Iraqi War, so I’ve no idea what you’re rambling on about now.

As I pointed I gave you a choice and you choose the stupid ignorant one. Not my problem if all others end up noticing what you are.

Petty namecalling, huh? I’m hurt, I tell you. HURT.

Nah, I’m already involved in the resistance, and it is not the one that is in mourning, but the one that is laughing at weaponized ignorance like yours.

What are you resisting? What are you talking about?

Racism is in reality just an extreme form of ignorance. And it is worse when you are an enabler of it.

If I was an enabler of racism, I’d be a Democrat.

[elucidator]

More Uncle Fester than Uncle Tom. And didn’t somebody warn you about the Red Bull enemas?

[Omg_a_Black_Conservative]

@jayjay

No. Clayton Bigsby isn’t an Uncle Tom. He’s a literally blind idiot who doesn’t realize that the policies and political opinions he spouts are detrimental to himself.

Besides, I’d have to believe you were actually African-American to consider you an Uncle Tom.

Reality has a conservative bias.

And considering he’s a Black KKK member, I think Uncle Tom, as it’s presently used in American discourse, fits.

…And lol @ you thinking I’m not smart enough to realize what benefits me and what doesn’t.

[elucidator]

Well, you must get something out of this, though damned if I know what it might be.

[Omg_a_Black_Conservative]

I’m here to fight ignorance, obviously.

[running_coach]

@Omg_a_Black_Conservative

Reality has a conservative bias.

And considering he’s a Black KKK member, I think Uncle Tom, as it’s presently used in American discourse, fits.

…And lol @ you thinking I’m not smart enough to realize what benefits me and what doesn’t.

So who’s your friend?

[octopus]

@GIGObuster

Nah, I’m already involved in the resistance, and it is not the one that is in mourning, but the one that is laughing at weaponized ignorance like yours.

The “resistance?” Lol. Forgive me for laughing, but the idea of a bunch of dope smoking, unemployable, soft leftists sneaking around and blowing up railroad tracks to stop the evil, fascist, WWIII starting, Russian loving, server hacking, fake news propagating regime is comical.

@jayjay

No. Clayton Bigsby isn’t an Uncle Tom. He’s a literally blind idiot who doesn’t realize that the policies and political opinions he spouts are detrimental to himself.

Besides, I’d have to believe you were actually African-American to consider you an Uncle Tom.

That’s because blacks can only think in one approved manner according to their democrat masters?

[Omg_a_Black_Conservative]

@running_coach

So who’s your friend?

My right hand.

[Kimstu]

@octopus

That’s because blacks can only think in one approved manner […]?

No, ISTM it’s a statistical inference. There certainly are black conservatives as well as blacks of all other political persuasions.

But the number of blacks who are really virulently conservative is probably a great deal smaller than the number of virulently conservative whites pretending to be black on an anonymous messageboard to make their ideology seem more racially inclusive and diverse.

So while OMGABC might be black (and certainly the validity or otherwise of most of his professed opinions doesn’t depend on whether he is or not), it doesn’t look very likely.

[Omg_a_Black_Conservative]

Okay, you got me.

I’m actually a dark brown.

[Princhester]

@Omg_a_Black_Conservative

I got what you meant. But let me try this another way. If you believe it’s that easy to accomplish what Trump has, then why aren’t there more billionaires?

Because few people inherited as much as he did when he did. Look at page 9 of this paper. It estimates about 10,000 people with more than $5M in the US in 1976. I haven’t found any figures for the number of people with $100M at that time (Trump is said to have inherited about that though a bit earlier). However given the exponential drop off in the number of individuals as the amount of wealth goes up, the number of people with $100M or so the 1970’s would be relatively tiny. Then, of those, a large number would have spent their money, or split it amongst family, rather than have concentrated on investing and growing it.

Which leads to the key point; there’s no doubt that Trump is a person who has worshipped wealth and concentrated on growing what he was given, using the advantages of birth he was given. However that doesn’t make him the super-businessman he likes to play on TV. He’s simply a man who was given an incredible hand at birth and has played that hand OK. Not great, but OK.

[madmonk28]

@Ale

Right, to you I’m a racist because you can invent a list of things I never said.
Now, can you try a bit of intellectual honesty and point to me, precisely were I:

-Insisted that there was no real racism in the Trump campaign.
-That there was no racism in the Birther movement.

Can you do that? You can’t, because I didn’t say those things.
Heck, I’ll help you out, for the first point what I really said:

“…he (Madmonk28) wants to imply that Trump is a racist because the KKK endorsed his campaign, which is another layer of guilt by association”
I think even the most obtuse person can see (or at least the second most obtuse person) is distinctly different than your… recollection of “Your insistence that there was no real racism in the Trump campaign”
I didn’t say there was no racism, I said that an endorsement by a racist organization on itself doesn’t make a campaign racist, if people would live and act according to that abortion of logical thinking all the KKK has to do in the future is sink the presidential campaign of the party they don’t want in power by endorsing them. Sorry! you are racist now

For the second point what I said was:

“being a Birther doesn’t make one a racist, sure it makes one as thick as two short planks, but a racist? not necessarily”
Do you understand what the “not necessarily” is there for? It means that, while some, perhaps even most Birthers, are racist, that doesn’t mean everyone of them is, some may just hate Obama’s guts and be perfectly fine with black people in general, some may be garden variety conspiracy nutjobs, no racism necessary, some may just play along for political expediency, etc, etc… Is that too nuanced for you to understand? Birther therefore racist is the type of simplistic negative stereotyping that racist do, just so you know.
Do you understand Venn diagrams? A big circle for the Birther mass as a whole, within that circle another one for racists, logically you can say some Birthers are Racists, but you can’t say all Birthers are racists therefore your argument that being a Birther, on itself, proves racism is invalid.

You completely misrepresented everything I said in order to justify your own sense of self-righteousness, and I’m the one with a twisted world view… :rolleyes:

So, well no, clearly you just want to call people racist and, paraphrasing Bush’s administration policy, fix the facts around to justify it.

No, he called me a racist before that, which you would have seen if you’d actually read to what I was replying to, I don’t have a big red crayon to use at the moment so this should suffice:

“Own your fear, own your racism and own your president.”

My racism is a figment of your, and Madmonk28’s imagination, which shows an amazing lack of self awareness considering that it came right after I wrote:
“What Madmonk28 did there was prove Octopus correct, loaded terms are used to demonize opponents with callous disregard for what is true or not. I don’t like what someone says? I’ll just called them racist!, because they are Trump supporters (never mind whether they are not) and I think Trump is a racist, so there!, me right you wrong.”

And here again you prove that observation as being correct, you just can’t help yourselves calling other people racists, any excuse would do, and if there’s no excuse just make one up and call the other person a liar.

Really, you are so consumed by hatred at the moment that you can’t even think straight.

The saddest thing here is that I’m on your side, sort of, Trump is an absolute disaster for the USA in particular and the world in general, but your head is so far up your ass that can’t even see it.
The lesson you should have taken after the election is that this sort of beheaviour of yours is what, IMO in large part, led to the final result, you alienated too many people who would have come to your side by being absolutely intractable, self-righteous, divisive idiots.
For the life of me I can’t imagine why so many people have said that they voted for Trump just to piss off the other side… :smack:

By the way, as if needed more clarification, Trump is not my president, I didn’t vote for him, what with not being in the US or being a US citizen; I’m someone unburdened by partisan baggage looking at things from the outside as impartially as possible, which appears to be an unwelcome attitude.

Holy shit dude, do you get paid by the word?

[octopus]

@Kimstu

No, ISTM it’s a statistical inference. There certainly are black conservatives as well as blacks of all other political persuasions.

But the number of blacks who are really virulently conservative is probably a great deal smaller than the number of virulently conservative whites pretending to be black on an anonymous messageboard to make their ideology seem more racially inclusive and diverse.

So while OMGABC might be black (and certainly the validity or otherwise of most of his professed opinions doesn’t depend on whether he is or not), it doesn’t look very likely.

A lot of the black Democrats I know are actually pretty conservative in many ways.

[GIGObuster]

@octopus

The “resistance?” Lol. Forgive me for laughing,

No, that is ok, that was a joke son.

Of course it follows that because you did not recognize that you really appear as a very obtuse guy, just like many conservatives out there.

@octopus

but the idea of a bunch of dope smoking, unemployable, soft leftists sneaking around and blowing up railroad tracks to stop the evil, fascist, WWIII starting, Russian loving, server hacking, fake news propagating regime is comical.

Not as comical of seeing conservatives trolling for replies in a site that is fighting ignorance. The problem for you is that I do reply because I also learn by seeking good evidence or better minds out there to use as replies.

@octopus

That’s because blacks can only think in one approved manner according to their democrat masters?

Of course that that line is just pointing at racism and it will never get through your thick skull why. Republicans to explain away why many blacks and Hispanics remain democrats many Republicans just trip on their own dicks and make examples of why they continue to see stupid ignorance spewed to denigrate blacks like this one:

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-lewis-racist-smear-black-communities-1bf465e38e3a#.o7xgq4n6h

Trump’s attack on John Lewis is also a racist smear against black communities
The president-elect often suggests cities are hell holes.

In response to a series of tweets from President-elect Donald Trump on Saturday that attacked civil rights legend John Lewis for taking no action to improve his “crime infested” district that’s in “horrible shape” and “falling apart,” much of the country immediately jumped to Lewis’ defense.

Deeply offended by Trump’s suggestion that Lewis — who has been beaten and arrested for marching for racial justice and voting rights — is “all talk and no action,” dozens of lawmakers fired back on Twitter with examples of his significant contributions over the past several decades.

Yeah and then Trump pretends that his inauguration will be about “Unity”… :rolleyes:

[GIGObuster]

@Omg_a_Black_Conservative

Reality has a conservative bias.

And considering he’s a Black KKK member, I think Uncle Tom, as it’s presently used in American discourse, fits.

Well, somehow he thinks that that makes his behavior OK.

Meh, I had Hispanic relatives that were crazy in Florida and I’m not sure yet if their craziness was the reason why they became rabid republicans. But one particular relative that sadly passed away recently actually helped me see how easy it was to get some Hispanics to spread truly racist cites, images and fake news in Facebook. It was clear to me that the guys that fall with that kind of peers, even if they are minorities, have to endure or just absorb when attempting to tell themselves how to normalize the bigoted program. Otherwise if they do complain nowadays they would be voted off the republican island.

The reprehensible peer pressure was until recently not what most Republicans supported but many more are now getting used to.

[GIGObuster]

@Omg_a_Black_Conservative

FWIW, I’ve also said on this board that I do not and never did support the Iraqi War, so I’ve no idea what you’re rambling on about now.

Just what I was just saying. You can not see that I was talking still about how the powerful have used torture to fool dunderheads into supporting the agenda of reprehensible men like Quadaffy or Bush the lesser.

That you did not support the war is good, but it is not good that you are willfully ignoring that a big reason many Republicans were fooled was thanks to torture. And the fact that you are defending the use of torture only shows that you are supporting one of the tools that people like Trump would like to use.

IOW what you are showing here is just your willingness to support policies that will continue to fool most of the Republicans. Maybe you will avoid falling for the smoke and mirrors that they will use, but I doubt it as you prefer to carry water for your team.

[iiandyiiii]

@Omg_a_Black_Conservative

Because ISIS, as well as the rest of these jihadi groups, would extend you and your family the same courtesy, right? I mean, shit. It’s not like they’re running around beheading, blowing up, hanging, drowning, etc. people, and it’s not like they’re not killing gays for being gay, raping women because they can or doing anything else of the sort. It’s not like they’re not actively training their families to wage war against you, or the West in general.

Is this meant as a defense of purposefully killing women and children because of the crimes of their husband/father? Can you expand on this?

People who do not want to adhere to the articles of the Geneva Conventions should not be afforded their protections. If you want to act like an animal and engage in barbaric acts against people who are different than you then, no, I have no problems with torture.

And you trust the government to determine who has engaged in this without error? Or are you okay with occasionally torturing innocent people?