I'm gonna have to quit another job

Maybe an urban legend, but…

There was once an assistant to Mao Tse Tung who was asked what his job was like.

He said that one day the Premiere told him that the Great Wall of China represented tyranny and subjugation of the people and demanded that it be torn down.

The next day, the assistant told Mao that work crews assembled on the Great Wall per his instructions and dismantled it down to the last brick, removing the offending edifice from the sights of the Chinese forever.

The next day, Mao said to the assistant that the Great Wall was a glorious monument to the work and pride of the great people of China, and ordered that it be rebuilt.

The assistant told Mao the next day that workers had returned to the Great Wall and assembled it back to its original state, piece by piece, and it now stands tall and proud and gloriously overlooking the Chinese Empire.

The assistant then added, “Actually, I spent the whole time watching TV, but he thinks I’m a genius.”

And I’m free to quit if I don’t think the job is getting me someplace I want to be. What’s your point again?

And I’m betting you receive more than $12/hr as compensation for your trouble, right? Also, I bet you worked hard to get where you are, and that your job is the achievment of a goal that you set for yourself, right? And I’m also sure that none of that has nothing to do with your putting up with the pointless shit for the greater good, right? :rolleyes:

So you’ve gone through this initiation? You must be one tough guy, huh? Tell me, what if after the initiation they were just going to say “Thank you” and send you home? You’d still have gone through with it, right? After all, who needs a reason for a siz-week pointess mindfuck? Life’s a bitch, then you die, suck it up, drop and give me twenty, maggot…

And I maintain that you don’t know whether even sven can handle some old idiot with a breakdown or not, all you know is that she weighed her options and decided it wasn’t worth it. If it had been worth it, she might have stayed.

Not urban legend, but Doonsbury. It’s Honey, the Chinese woman always with Uncle Duke.

Don’t feel bad for quitting. I really think I know EXACTLY how you feel. I worked for a guy who sounds eerily similar to the one you described (in his house, too) and it was just an impossible position. I swear, unless you have ever worked for one of these weirdos, it’s really difficult to understand just how bizarre the behavior/demands/communication can be. Even though I knew he was “difficult” going into the position, I just knew that I’d be the one to last – it took about two weeks for me to go running out of there.

Good luck!

First of all, I fucking hate that the quote function on this MB doesn’t do the imbedded quote thing.

I actually don’t have a problem with her quitting, I would have quit too once I found something better. I just don’t agree with your conclusion that she only couldn’t handle it because it was pointless.

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OK, OK. Bad analogy on my part. I did spend a summer working for a truely abusive mother fucker when I was in college. I was as assistant carpet and flooring installer. I put up with his shit so I could make enough money to live through the summer until my student loan and TA job kicked back in. I couldn’t manage to find another job that summer. I have been there.

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Actually, I didn’t. I did, however, seriously consider the PC but I went to Grad School instead. I spoke with over 20 people who had been through the program and corresponded with two friends who went in when I would have so I have a fairly good idea what goes on.

By the way, you can fail the initiation. A few people are sent home. You know that going in. They actually do a very good screening job though and if they don’t think that you have the necessary mental toughness, you’ll fail the interview process.

From the OP:

Haj

I consider myself to be mature, responsible, hard working, persistent, etc., etc. But, I would quit this job, too, because . . .

This is pretty much a prescription for insanity. Granted, it’s better to have a job lined up before quitting, but sometimes . . . you. just. reach. your. limit.

Huh?

I’m still waiting for even sven’s response re: how the hell 12 bucks an hour part time enables her to live, save and travel in California. That girl’s got mad budgeting skills…

Well, you have a point with that last quote. I forgot that she said that. I guess only sven can say whether or not she thinks she could’ve handled it if it were less pointless.

I believe Tarantula was making a small ha-ha about your misspelling of etc. etc. The way your spelling made it look like “eck…eck”, I guess. Choking. Y’know.

Ohnevermind.

Lord.

Haven’t we had enough “spelling police” Pit threads on that subject? Like the hamsters aren’t overworked enough…

I feel for ya, SVEN.

Yes, it’s always a good idea to have a new job lined up before you quit the old one. But sometimes the old one just sucks to the outer limits of suck-dom, and not having to do it anymore becomes more important than the resume, the rent, or anything else.

I quit my job on the spot in December. I just walked in one day and realized I couldn’t take it any more, went in to my boss’s office, and quit. No notice, no job lined up, no savings. I’ve never in my life not given notice. I’ve never in my life quit one job without having another one to go to, or school to go back to, or a move planned, or some other good reason to quit.

But I hated my life. Hated it. I hated getting up in the morning, I hated coming home at night because I knew in twelve hours I had to go back there.

I was unemployed for two months. I spent five months doing contract work. I’m now employed at a job I really like, where I feel I’m doing something of value and am valued by those I work for. I’m several thousand dollars further in debt, but I don’t regret it for a minute. I only wish I’d quit sooner.

Don’t let people who don’t know your life or your situation tell you what you should or shouldn’t do. Work is too important to hate and nothing should make you cry every day. Congratulations on having the guts to walk away. Good luck! :slight_smile:

Good for you, sven! Sure, you’ll be unemployed for a little while, but you’ll have your dignity and sanity intact. I don’t let my mother yell at me anymore; I’m damn sure not going to put up with it from my boss.

Hey, Jodi’s here!

Good luck, even sven. As you know, I had to quit my job at Kmart last September when it got to the point that I was having panic attacks at even the thought of going to work and when I was there I was crying so hard I couldn’t get anything done.

Hopefully, things will get better for you soon!

Hey, sometimes you just have to do it.

I had a job that made me cry. I stuck it out for a goodly time, to try to make it work for me. It didn’t.

I start my new job in August, and I’m moving on Wednesday.

Life is too long to spend it being miserable.

But I did stick it out until I had a new job, because unemployment kind of sucks, too.

even sven
Didn’t we just do this? I thought you were going off to Pakistan or Japan or something.

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I’d advise you to pick up some dry wall repair skills, too – there’s good money in that.

Heh, I’ve got mad drywall skillz. I worked as a carpenter for…well…three months. I used to earn money at the end of the school year repairing people’s dorm walls for them so they wouldn’t get fined.

And, well, I don’t need much. I pay $550 for rent in my falling-down-shack, and $450 is almost a hundred bucks a week. Thats more than enough for food and entertainment. I don’t have any debt (well, not till my student loans kick in in six months), and I don’t have a car or any other big expenses. So I can get by pretty well on next to nothing. And for now getting by is all I need.

The reason I’m still hanging around here is I am working on a film. It’s one of the best stories I’ve come across to do. I have access to all of the equiptment I need and a talented crew. If I can pull this off, it will be in festivals and will lead to bigger and better things. I decided that it is time for me to believe in myself and try to make a future doing what I love. I can’t give up on filmmaking, especially not with this camera sitting on my floor. I owe it to myself to give it a shot.

And yes, the pointlessness of it was what made it unbearable. I’m not talking about the work just being meaningless- I’ve done plenty of that. But it was a situation where I’d get in trouble if I didn’t do things his way, and doing things his way would make it impossible to get anything done, which would lead to me getting in trouble. And in the end, all of these tasks that I was getting in so much trouble for were not actual tasks that need to be done. They were things like calling delis, when we had already picked out a deli, and asking them about their shrimp boats, when we had already decided on a cheese tray, and asking if they deliver on Saturdays, when the party is on a Friday. I couldn’t do the task right, and i could complete it in a satisfactory manner because it wasn’t actually anything real.

I’ll give you an example of one of my more repugnent assignments. He had a bank account with a problem on it. He did not look at his mail for five weeks, and thus did not know about the problem (which they sent something like ten letters about) until it had snowballed and he ended up with some moderate fees. It was totally and without question his fault. If he had checked his mail, instead of handing it off to one of his minions to take care of months later, he could have caught the problem and fixed it. Additionally, he interpreted the bank documents completely wrong, believeing that they did an inaccurate transfer. When I tried to explain to him the money he though was in question was clearly interest and the bank was in the right on that matter, he ignored me and kept ranting about how the bank was ripping him off.

I was responsible for calling up the bank to get the fees reversed. I said I’d do my best. Whatever.

So I call, they tell me that he has to go into a branch and talk to the banker he was working with earlier. I report that to him. He tells me I have to take care of this on my own. I call the branch. They give me a number. I stay on hold for forty minutes before I try another tactic. I call the help line again. They tell me to go to a branch and they will likely reverse the fees. I report back to the crazy old guy again, saying that he has to go to the branch, and they can resolve it pretty quickly there.

He asks me what the name of the person on the giant national helpline phone bank I called was, and that I should speak to her again and have them fax a statement that the branch will reverse the fees. I say they probably won’t do that. He says I should “make it happen” because thats “what he hired me for”. So I can the helpline for about the seventh time (there were lots of pointless and illogical follow-up questions he’d have me call back to ask every time I gave him information) and ask them for a statement. Obviously they won’t give it to me. I call the branch, and the branch won’t either.

So I follow his next order, which is to demand an address for me to write a complaint letter to, and to harrass them in general for not reversing his charges on the national help line over the phone. This was the point that I started breaking down. They were just as scared and annoyed as I was. And there was nothing either one of us could do because this crazy old guy was pulling our strings. I wasn’t allowed to leave without getting the charges reversed, they were not allowed to reverse the charges. There was no way anyone could win.

And after all that, it came down to the fact that if he wants to reverse the charges, he’d have to come to the bank, since it’s his account, he’s the one who decided not to read his mail, and although they will likely reverse the charges for customer goodwill, it’s his fault. After six hours of him not taking “I don’t think it is going to work out that way” for an answer, he relented. At this point I start getting yelled at for taking so long and not solving the problem. And about how it wasn’t worth his money to pay me if I took time to fix things and about how I wasn’t “using my head”.

Eventually he wrote out a check to pay off the balance. I was sent (on the bus, since I don’t have a car) to drop off the check “on my way home” (yeah, going five miles out of my way on the bus is no problem). Yep, I had to hand the teller a check with 'RIP OFF" written in giant letters on the memo line. Brilliant.

He still has to fax them a signed letter today, and I’m sure he’d have some problem with doing that and I’d get yelled at for how I handled the situation. They had to open the account and then close it. And I am 100% sure that he’d disapprove of that and get mad about how I let the bank employees push me around and about how I didn’t ask them the million irrational questions that he thinks are imperetive to ask in all situations (not that he ever remembers or applies the answers) and about how he doesn’t have time to do things like sign faxes (but does have time to ramble and rant and write lists that he loses and ask millions of pointless questions).

If I was there today, that is.

Wow. I think I have a new hero.

pan

Been there. Done that.

What I want to know is how the lunatics manage to reach the point where they not only have a house but can hire people to come there and suffer through their whims and tirades.

Once I know that, my plan will be complete and the world will fall before me!

Or, y’know, I’ll have a house and be able to hire people to come there and suffer through my whims and tirades.

Either way is fine with me.

Hmm… research assistant… writing a book…

Maybe his book is about the things people will put up with in the name of employment?

pan

Oh sven, that sounds awful. I don’t blame you for leaving. It seems like a lot of us have gone through something like that. I am lucky that I’ve never worked under anyone quite that insane, but a few times it’s been close. Sometimes you have to cut your losses before you completely lose it.

Incidentally (now I am going to ramble about my own miserable job) am (once again) contemplating quitting. I’ve been toying with it for a while now, and a new development at work just may push me over the edge this time.

I am studying and hoping to get into another healthcare-related field. I have high hopes for this new career. It won’t involve direct contact with patients, which is what I want. (I’ve done my share of work with the patients, and I’m ready to be done with that.) I just have to finish my studies and off I go. The thing is, my current job is healthcare-related, direct care. And some of my coworkers are horrible, petty gossips. A petty, lying gossip coworker can do a lot of damage. They can falsely accuse you of abuse of a patient, and if their allegations stick and you are found guilty of abuse, you are barred (or at least severely hampered) from working in a healthcare job again.

And since I am studying for and have high hopes for this other healthcare job, do I want to stick around and risk having some petty coworker lie about me? True, the odds of being found guilty of abuse when I’m innocent are remote, but it could happen. Yesterday one of my friends was falsely accused of abuse by one of these crazy-ass coworkers. I am assuming that my friend will be absolved of all guilt, but still—how horrible. I feel terrible for him, he’s very stressed out.

I don’t want to risk being next in line for false accusations. I’ll be done with my studies and ready for a different, better job in a little over half a year. Maybe I should just get out while the gettin’s good at this job, before something BAD happens.

Yeesh.