That’s pretty much what I thought.
It seems like all the other articles use Debrief as their source.
Not really.
Yeah. I don’t consider Rubio to be reasonable.
Whether he really believes the things he says or is just a grifter saying anything he thinks will get votes, i can’t say.
He released the Senate Intelligence Committee reports on election inference and Trump’s questionable connections to it.
But he is still a politician.
So given the revolutionary-if-true nature of this claim, has anything new come of this? This was a two-day wonder in the news cycle and then nothing.
Probably because there’s nothing to it.
The last thing I saw was that Ross Coulthart was saying that somebody told him that UAPs were humans from the future and it was being suppressed out of fear of changing the time line.
Yeah Ross, I’ve seen Star Trek too. Got any more scifi for us?
Yall ready to talk about David Grusch yet? Aliens are real. We need to reevaluate everything now. Who is lying. Who is telling the truth. Who is honestly searching for wisdom and knowledge and who is trying to shame you into not asking certain questions. Antartica and Lacerta truly want to know what you think.
Yeah?
I refuse to assimilate.
Why would we want to talk about a wacky publicity hound who has no information, just a “I heard somebody whose name I don’t know saying that they heard somebody else whose name they don’t know say something about some other folks knowing something about aliens.”
That there is some red hot highly credible “evidence” ya got there buddy. Not.
Grusch and other’s testimony:
I watched the whole hearing. I will say that it was entertaining. Those three men seemed to believe what they’re saying, but that doesn’t make any of it true.
As for it being a Republican orchestrated distraction or whatever, I’m not sure that I buy that. It certainly appeared to be bipartisan. I don’t think that Raskin or Ocasio-Cortez would go along with a Republican circus.
I mostly can’t listen to it at the moment so I only caught a little bit of the beginning, but I noted that the first guy was quick (unprompted, in his opening statement) to deny that it was balloons. This would tell me that he’s been told by others, at some point, that it was balloons.
Hopefully, someone will publish a transcript. That’s a lot faster to go through.
While I accept that very reasonable people have witnessed things that they can’t explain, I am highly skeptical of the accounts being relayed. It seems that the meaty stuff fall into second-hand anecdotes.
As I stated in other places -
Regarding the existence of alien crafts or creatures, could someone explain why we don’t have any evidence of either from 300 years ago, or 800 years ago? Or that some of the more colorful non-US leaders throughout history have not been on record as having paraded their crashed alien crafts or creatures around in the town square? Surely there is no reason this phenomena would be limited to the recent past, and localized to the US. I find it hard to reconcile that all of humanity, throughout history, has independently agreed to keep real evidence of crashed craft and creatures hidden.
To counter Rumsfeld: Absence of evidence IS evidence of absence.
I want so, so much to believe the next sentence involved saying “you know, them dogs and monkeys and whatnot that the commies sent up in space rockets back when.”
Nitpick: The commies sent up dogs. Most of the monkeys were ours (One was Argentinian.)
Pardon my simplicity, but AFAICT your link says that “The Soviet Union sent eight monkeys into space in the 1980s on Bion flights.”
None of these claims are new, they go back 30 years at least. Why now?
Sweeps Week?
Let’s see.
David Fravor had an encounter with an Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon in 2004; some time later that day a similar phenomenon was filmed by a different pilot, Dave Underwood (who did not testify). The Fravor encounter includes some interesting details, but it is difficult to make an assessment of a sighting with no recoded data at the time. But Underwood’s film (FLIR1) can be analysed, and although it seems to show unusual behaviour, most of this can be explained by analysing the accompanying readouts on the film itself.
Ryan Graves reported numerous encounters by Navy pilots and airline pilots. Despite the fact that he consistently uses ‘we’ when talking about these encounters, I can’t actually determine if he has seen anything significant himself. Two film clips have been presented as coming from the series of encounters which Graves has described; one of them, GOFAST, seems to have been something quite small moving with the wind, while the other (GIMBAL) seems to be a hot object (probably a plane) flying away in a nearly straight line.
The accounts that Graves mentions as coming from airline pilots describing objects performing ‘hockey-stick’ manoeuvres have also been largely explained as constellations of Starlink satellites sequentially catching the sunlight.
Many of these encounters have been analysed at the Metabunk forum; some, but not all, have been convincingly explained, but you won’t get this info from Graves.
David Grusch seems to have no first-hand experience of UAPs or alien bodies at all; he has found out everything he knows from the testimony of around 40 other individuals, and says the details are all classified. What should happen now is that each of those 40 individuals should be interviewed, presumably in private. and their testimony should be obtained. I suspect that of those ~40 individuals, a significant number will deny it, or say that they were only passing on rumours, or that their confidants are dead, or something. The rest of these 40-odd witnesses will probably have first-hand accounts similar to Fravor’s, that is to say, complete with possible misidentifications and inconclusive data.
I could make suggestions as to whom some of Grusch’s ~40 witnesses might be, but I won’t. It all depends very much on exactly how gullible he is (surely he didn’t include Bob Lazar among his sources - but who knows?)
Pigs In Spaaaaaaaaaaaace.