A lot of conspiracy theorist think that the government or some department of it is hiding the existence of aliens and we have reverse engineered their technology, etc. Now I for the record do believe their is life out their is the cosmos other then our own. I however do not believe that Any group or organization big enough to be able to know of the existence of aliens to be able to keep quiet about it.
I ask this question because Stumble Upon showed me a couple of links
The first one being of an ex astronaut who confessed aleins exist and their is a cover up
Another video which I first saw on the Discovery Channel has some shuttle transmission talking about “alien spacecraft”. Now I am sure that they could have been referring to a satellite but the show quickly states that the shuttle stopped that transmission and switched over to an encrypted DoD channel
Area 51 is supposed to be one of the most secret military installations. Yet ask any joe on the street “What does the government have in Area 51?” I’ll bet you dollars to donuts they’ll say aliens or UFOs.
I don’t think so. Look how well we did at keeping the atomic and hydrogen bombs a secret. The Soviets had one just a few years after we did, followed not too long afterward by several other countries. If we had reverse-engineered some cool alien technology, other countries would have stolen that information and found out where it came from.
Let’s assume the the government knows about aliens and even consorts with them on occasion.
I think it’s more likely the aliens are the ones doing the cover-up than the government. There are just too many people working in the military and NASA to hide something as important as aliens, especially ones with apparently dubious motives (if they are innocent then why are they hiding and dealing with the government?).
Now let’s assume that the government is as ignorant about the aliens as we are, that all the gov knows is that there are strange craft zipping around with impunity and possibly abducting people. I doubt the gov would tell anyone that what is going on is real but that they can’t do anything about it. They would definitely try to hide what little they would know on the subject.
It’s too big a story not to leak somewhere. The Manhattan Project was kept secret because we were fighting a war and everyone was urged not to talk about anything regarding the military (so if you did work there, you could just say “It’s for the war effort” and not get any more questions).
But that’s not the same with aliens. Someone would leak (assuming, of course, no one happened to notice the aliens landing, which seems very unlikely).
I’d think exobiology research and the search for aliens would get a lot more funding and respect from the government than it does, if the government really were hiding aliens. I doubt you’d have congresspeople saying that SETI deserved a “Golden Fleece” award for wasting taxpayers’ money. Or they might have somehow tried to shut down research into alien life entirely.
To be fair, although the Soviets got a considerable amount of information about implosion fission devices from espionage, their fusion designs (especially Sakharov’s “Third Idea”) was essentially home grown and the data that the Soviets did acquire from spies was only used to confirm and refine the design.
Still, the point is taken; the government rarely manages to keep any significant development very secret for long. Most real “secrets” like medical experimentation without consent or covert overthrow of “unfriendly” governments are more a matter of public apathy than competence at effective conspiracy.
I generally agree with Chuck. To assume that the federal government, even the military, could keep something like that quiet over 40 years assumes a level of competence so far not in evidence.
The federal government simply put, leaks like a sieve. Everyone talks and if you promise to respect ‘off the record’ pretty much anything goes. It’s really kind of pitiful once you stop to think about it.
Even if they weren’t transmitting signals via radio, they could still cause radio interference. You might get something like how car engines with spark plugs cause interference with radio observing at Green Bank, even though spark plugs are not intended for radio communication.
I don’t get it. The supposed “alien” sightings, in 1940’sealy 1950’s New Mexico have all been explained (ad nauseum) by the US AirForce. The “sightings” were actually due to the wreckagefrom two Top Secret Air Force programs (Project “Mogul” and a proect to test the safety of high altitude parachute escapes). The Air Force has released all of the info on these programs-and even answered all of the questions. They even published a summary of all the information.
It didn’t stop the true belivers-for that reason, I belive the UFO movement is really a religion.:smack:
People see stuff in the sky that they can’t explain. But which is more likely to get you attention and interest from your friends- “I saw something in the sky that I’m not sure what it was” or “I saw a UFO”?
I guarantee you various people and businesses in Roswell, NM, are playing this up to get attention and tourist dollars. Would people go there to see the site of a top-secret aircraft crash?
I suspect quite a few authors of books about aliens and UFO’s (or maybe their publishers and publicists) of doing it for the attention and money they get.
The only thing a conspiracy theory needs to survive and grow in the re-telling is that there must be no way to resolve it one way or the other. ‘The government has evidence of aliens but has covered it up’ is a perfect example. It’s an assertion that can never be comprehensively falsified. As soon as you allege that something has been covered up, the lack of evidence is taken as corroborative.
To address the OP directly, I agree with those who say that to achieve such a cover-up would require a degree of organised competence at government level for which there is no supporting evidence.
I’ve read a lot about all the claims and counter-claims over the years. One rather unhelpful factor is that in various official and military contexts, ‘alien’ can simply mean ‘unidentified’ or ‘from a different country’. So someone latches on to an old document that refers to ‘aliens’ being sighted, and prints it in a ‘Hey! Wow!’ book about extra-terrestrial life. Perhaps it was just an airforce pilot filing a routine report about seeing a plane he thought might have come from a different country.
Most abduction accounts feature the following events. They generally follow the sequence noted below, though not all abductions feature all the events:
Capture. The abductee is forcibly taken from terrestrial surroundings to an apparent alien space craft. Examination. Invasive medical or scientific procedures are performed on the abductee. Conference. The abductors speak to the abductee. Tour. The abductees are given a tour of their captors’ vessel. Loss of Time. Abductees rapidly forget the majority of their experience. Return. The abductees are returned to earth. Occasionally in a different location from where they were allegedly taken or with new injuries or disheveled clothing. Theophany. The abductee has a profound mystical experience, accompanied by a feeling of oneness with God or the universe. Aftermath. The abductee must cope with the psychological, physical, and social effects of the experience.
What is the US Government going to do about this?
As we sit here typing, aliens are inserting rectal probes in American citizens. :smack:
Personally, I believe Alien conspiracy is a great proxy and smokescreen/counterintelligence as jettisoned by Project Bluebook. It is a living and highly successful example of the US Government’s propaganda arm. The proving ground that simultaneously misdirects and discredits all other lines of inquiry.
Every thing is deniable as long as there are aliens. They can propagate their ET archetype/stereotype whilst the objective truth is twice as mundane but three times more fantastic.
Another thing. The Alien Conspiracy Cover is a “draw-er” in exactly the opposite direction of the reality. It is an inverse subterfugue. People are thinking outerspace rather than innerspace; extraterresterial instead of interdimensional. I think interdimensional or intradimensional contact is much more likely than the physical abstract that is represesented by interstellar contact. That is… Timetravel not spacetravel. Quantum distance in extra dimensions is no different than lightyear 3-D travel… except it’s right next to us.
Sorry to disappoint you, but I’ve been to TTR, and they aren’t any aliens or flying saucers. For exotic technology there wasn’t so much as an atomic cocktail shaker there.