I'm Pitting TimothyNewsome

The BBQ Pit
1

I’ve been on the SDMB since AOL days and this is the first time I’ve ever pitted a Straight Dope member.

TimothyNewsome, come on down. You just insulted me, misgendered me, and dismissed me from conversation in one pithy pissy little driveby sentence:

thread post

a) I’m genderqueer, which is either cousin to transgender or a subset of it depending on how you define your terms. I don’t choose to use the word transgender but that’s my business. I was beaten up and driven to a suicide attempt for being a fairy sissy femme, so don’t pull this shit about ‘male’ and ‘heterosexual’. I’m fucking marginalized and qualified to speak on gender.

b) You came into that thread to make the above as your sole contribution to the discussion? Seriously?

c) I don’t have much tolerance for the attitude that “we shouldn’t bother listening to people who aren’t at least as oppressed as we are” anyway. Yeah, let’s all whip out our oppression-meters and measure who’s had it the worst. Reverse fucking elitism. Because all the world’s problems were designed by cis white male able-bodied English-speaking rich Americans. They plotted it all in the boy’s bathroom. And if we can identify your membership in a handful of oppressor-groups we can ad hominem your ass and not listen to your viewpoint. Lookie here, I got Genuwine Oppressed Group Membership cards, so I get to talk and you don’t, etc.

Yeah, so in this case I actually do. It’s still a bullshit argument for you to make.

Privileged people often really do have difficulty understanding the realities of the social system they participate in; there are legitimate reasons to consider the marginalized to be more authoritative and give added weight to what they have to say. I really am a white person, and when I talk about race it really is true that I oughta try to remain aware of how my white priv can make me oblivious to things, and that might be the case in the above-mentioned thread. But there’s a fundamental goddam difference between “we get to take the fact of your observable privilege into account” and “you don’t get to speak, your viewpoint doesn’t count”.

Among other things, you don’t ever know what marginalized group a person belongs to. Might be a group that hasn’t been socially highlighted for the ways in which they’re marginalized. So you should always assume that anyone you’re dealing with belongs to at least one. Just like everyone probably belongs to at least one category of privilege.

Now get the fuck out of my sight.

2

You are just another white hetro man in love with the sound his own voice, despite how desperately you try to paint yourself as a poor, mistreated “Victim of Patriarchy” or somesuch horseshit.

You are just another arrogant white hetro male, and need to shut the fuck up about gender discrimination, as you are part of the problem, no matter how loud and long you blub and whinge about being some kind of exotic, mysterious “Male Sissy”

Now fuck off, you elderly, self-pitying piece of shit.

3

… subscribed

Imgur

4

Truscum pig.

You are just another arrogant binary twit.

5

Let’s have it out. Anyone else think the only kind of transgender people who count are the ones who transition? You think the rest of us should shut up and fuck off because we’re just hopping on the goddam bandwagon, with our precious little snowflake nonbinary genderqueer identities?

I’ll snowflake your ass.

6

I’m sure you will, likely by composing another one of your trademark 10,000 word screeds about how impossibly hard it is for a white, heterosexual male like yourself to find the courage to go on even one more day in a bigoted, puritanical hellhole like New York City.

You are a selfish, whiney attention whore of the most odious kind, a white hetro man who cloaks himself ijn the mantle of the victim for sympathy, while enjoying all of the advantages of your white heterosexual male privilege

7

Thanks for the heads up.

Let’s see, Two Months, Three, … One Year, ah there it is Forever. Done.

8

Please, tell those of us who don’t know you, what are your credentials for claiming the right to make these kinds of judgments? I ask, since you seem to believe that credentials are necessary to hold and express opinions.

I suppose you are aware that you can ignore AHunder3 if you don’t want to read their stuff. Whence, then, your oh-so-righteous indignation?

9

Some call him … Tim.

10

Go on - say “white heterosexual male” again. :neutral_face:

11

Interesting that they refer to you as white—if you catch my meaning.

12

Are mods allowed to endorse a pitting? I’m going to hope the answer is “yes” and jump right on this bandwagon.

13

Anyone who thinks hummingbirds are cute and harmless has never seen Colibri in the Pit.

14

You are active harassing someone for being a minority. You appear to be trying to erase their gender identity. You’re pushing the same gambit that got another poster banned, saying someone was just suicidal for attention.

The way you are taking, you seem to be a POC, gay, and/or trans. Would you like it if we started referring to you as a white cishet woman? Would you like it if we invalidated your struggles, and said you were just doing it all for attention?

And it’s funny you have such a sense of how someone used to post and what they look like when you’ve only been here since November.

15

Excellent! Thank you.

16

You’re allowed to ban trolls too although maybe it involves paperwork.

17

Go crazy. Mods can’t start a pit thread, but once started, they’re allowed to jump right in.

18

I’m still waiting for my official jack boots to arrive in the mail.

19

So we just brushed by the fact his argument is a textbook ad hominem fallacy? And he loses by default?

Seeing as you are a white male hetrosexual, I don’t see why anyone should give any credence to your opinion on this subject.

Timothy?
J’accuse!!!

20

Or seen any actual hummingbirds. They’re very territorial and are aggressive fighters.

You get all tweaked up on sugar syrup and you have a giant knife in the middle of your face, you’re not going to put up with some other bird trying to move in on your turf.