Would you have us pretend that they are not deplorable if we think they are?
I'm SO sick of hearing "Trump voters are not bad people...we need to empathize with them". FUCK THAT
And his is the example you want to emulate? Ooooookay.
Regards,
Shodan
Where the fuck do you get the notion that the “left” is even involved in the picture any more? Labor abandoned the Left (such as it was) back in the Eighties when Little Ronnie Rea-shit came out with his “Morning in America” line of crap. The Democrats had the Left, the civil rights movement, and precious little else in '88 against GHWB, and got their asses handed to them. So, in 1992, the Democratic Party, realizing that “the Left” wasn’t going to get them back into the Oval Office, abandoned the “Left.” The Dems have been trying to woo back Labor (with only modest success) since Reagan, and not on behalf of the “Left.”
Shit works for flies. They eat it, lay their eggs in it, it feeds the maggots when they hatch.
Honey traps and kills them, and vinegar probably isn’t too good for them either.
Its fine if you think they are deplorable. The problem comes when those strong feelings cause you write off 40% of America as a lost cause, and label them all as uneducated, racist, ect. In more extreme cases that need to make everyone agree with you will end up in something awful like a firebombing
Which is my point, it doesn’t matter what we say, they are too interested in that piece of shit to even notice us over here. All the see is that we are trying to distract them from their shitfest, and that makes them angry.
(Although IME balsamic vinegar actually catches more flies [fruit flies anyway] than honey, and I have no idea how that could fit into the analogy.)
… Which is then blamed on members of another race…
So ya… one step removed.
I know a few people who are voting for Trump (barring any MORE developments)
They are still welcome to my house for coffee.
I’m sorry-Where did this “40% of America” crap come from?
Nothing? How about an apology for repeating that inaccurate “quote”, even though it has been corrected ghod knows how many times since the correct version was first uttered over a month ago?
20% (or less). She did cop to an error in saying it was half of them.
Dude, are you calling YOURSELF out?
No, I’m calling out all those all take Clinton’s quote about a percentage of Trump followers and wrongly expand it to the same percentage of Americans to make it look like Clinton was putting down almost half of America.
By “them”, she wasn’t talking about all Americans, was she?
40% of America was meant to mean whatever amount of people you deem Trump supporters. The specific number was mentioned earlier in the thread, not by you, so sorry if it came off like I was attributing.
Many posters in the thread including the OP won’t admit that there might be nuance in the reasons people support Trump besides that they are terrible people.
People of both sides like to paint with broad brushes.
So that would be, what-20 to 40% of 40% of America, right? Here is what was actually said about his die-hard followers by her…and the horrible things said about her by Trump.
There is not much nuance to be found.
They are either terrible people (actively hating those of another race) or they’re willing to look the other way at the terrible things Trump has said and done, or they are really, really stupid and gullible.
There’s really no other way out for them.
Explain to me a 4th way. A nuanced way that a Trump voter could possibly support his candidacy at this point. Trump’s amazing policies? Anything?
Why don’t you submit your scientific treatise on how all political parties are equally guilty of everything to a journal, then get back to us? If I never hear that lame-ass excuse again, it will be too soon.
I think you’re misunderstanding my beef. Go back and look at the OP, who clearly did not hear the second half of Clinton’s deplorable comment. I’m arguing that its unreasonable to generalize Trump supporters when the Democratic Candidate herself said that there is nuance in their concerns.
Euphonious Polemic, from Clinton. “people who feel the government has let them down, the economy let them down, nobody cares about them.” She stressed that “[t]hose are people we have to understand and empathize with as well."