I'm sorry.

My brain works differently from others and I did what I thought was reasonable at the time. I received news last month that likely triggered the old downward spiral but did not realize it at the time. I panicked.

I should have made it clear from the start that I was not looking for Dopers to come up with the entire three grand but had fixated on that amount. If the Dopers who offered help feel that they’ve been conned just need contact me and I will repay them ASAP.

Again, I am sorry.

“$30 from 100 Dopers” kind of makes it explicit that you were. But anyways, you set up the Paypal for your wife to receive money. Is she also “different”.

The real thing that bugged me personally is that you were unwilling to touch your own 18 yr old savings. Or one of your other retirement funds. Or companies that basically give you a free loan when you buy from them. Or wait to find out what your Sis could do. Oh, and blaming your brother who was helping you out for not helping more/faster and breaking your 45 yr old furnace.

And absolutely no backstory as to why anyone, but you, should pay for your, (very first world problem), broken airconditioner, in the OP.

Don’t get me wrong, I can admire someone who refuses a dinner invitation without making an excuse. But if you’re asking me for money, you should be willing to provide more backstory than you did, in the OP.

Lute, I just read your link to the other thread. Maybe you should discuss an antidepressant with your doctor. Your symptoms don’t seem very mild to me. They are affecting your life. It sucks to be worried and sad all the time.

Prozac made a world of difference for me. My husband was afraid it would change my personality, but all it did was clear away the dark clouds.

Sorry I don’t have anything to say about the current issue. :slight_smile:

And another thing, if you realize that this was all just depression induced panic and now know that you have plenty of options: don’t ask if people want their money back. Just give it back. That would make this a real apology.

What makes a ‘real’ apology is ownership.

Of which there is none, in the one proffered.

(Telling us, ‘you thought it reasonable, at the time’, is not taking ownership, it’s not an explanation, it’s an extremely lame excuse.)

(Really? Using your mental illness as an excuse? Lower than low, truly.)

(Saying, “…if people want their money back…”, is just weaselly and slimey. You misled people, own it, correct it, without being asked. Send back the money. An 8yr old would know this.)

elbows, CarnalK, it’s up to you whether to accept his apology or not, just as it was up to you to give him money or not. Flaming someone with mental health issues isn’t exactly classy behavior, either. If you have a problem with Lute, take it to the Pit. For this thread, you’ve made your position clear, so drop it.

twickster, MPSIMS moderator

Link to Pit thread.

Fortunately these low cycles don’t last very long. I was on Prozac in '93, after being releaed from the psych ward. Started feeling “too good”, if that makes sense.

In addition to the dysthymia, I have balance issues (“adjustment disorder”) and likely a touch of OCD. I fixate on things that are best not fixated on. The OP is the best I can do under the circiumstances.

Every word out of your [del]mouth[/del]fingers is dripping with excuses. Please just stop. There are people in much worse circumstances than you (both financially AND mentally, for crying out loud!) who don’t do what you did. Stop using your problems as an excuse for doing stupid things, and get treatment for them. Come back to this matter when you can issue a real, meaningful apology for your actions. Real, meaningful apologies include a promise that the action will not be repeated. If you won’t take steps to guarantee that, then your words are empty.

At least you didn’t lie about it, though. That’s a good sign.

Says you. Now. Some evidence you’re presented at other times suggests otherwise.

Nope. Does not make sense.

All of this.

What worries me more than the non-apology apology is that your wife is apparently ok with this behavior, as she is taking the donations via her Paypal.

I’m not trying to drag her into this mess, that’s really not my intent, but I do want to suggest that you ask her to take a stronger hand with you when you’re having this kind of mental health cycle. For your own good, you need to ask her to push back on you harder when you need it.

Oh, fuck it. Have fun pitting the nutball. I’m out.

Give back all of the money.

Lute, do it now. It is your only way out of this.

Why am I reminded of this Family Guy clip?

“You, uhhh, you got my money?”

Agreed.

Rough crowd huh Lute? Even when you apologize, you get attacked for it as well. Don’t worry it’s just the internet.

The “internet” is who he was asking money from. The “internet” is not pleased.

There’s this, though. Skywatcher seems to be giving people their money back.