Let’s not get snippy. It was very hard to watch with bits and pieces flying by and cut-aways.
It was hard for me to tell. No way to really understand it all, on the fly.
I certainly didn’t understand the horse, as long as that was.
But apparently it’s the Spirit of the Seine or something. A French historian might have known that. Maybe all French school children know it, IDK.
I’d say that Speaker of the House Mike Johnson should have better things to do than engage in performative outrage on “X”, but honestly if a bunch of drag queens at a table is all it takes to sideline his focus, I’m in favor of a round-the-clock all access free streaming service that is nothing but drag queens doing all manner of things for him to be outraged about.
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No, it was rather obvious what it was.
And even if it had been The Last Supper, which it IMO very obviously wasn’t, why would that have been offensive? That painting is depicted all the time and no one bats an eye. Oh right because it had gay people and drag queens. That is always what current day “Christian persecution” boils down to.
I like to keep this handy when I hear talk of Christian Persecution™.
“You don’t like the Goths?"
“No! Not with the persecution we have to put up with!”
“Persecution?”
“Religious persecution. We won’t stand for it forever.”
“I thought the Goths let everybody worship as they pleased.”
"That’s just it! We Orthodox are forced to stand around and watch Arians and Monophysites and Nestorians and Jews going about their business unmolested, as if they owned the country. If that isn’t persecution, I’d like to know what is!”
― L. Sprague De Camp, Lest Darkness Fall
Obvious to you doesn’t mean it was obvious to me or @Ulfreida.
I’m not offended by whatever it was.
If a few dumbass Christians wanna die on that cross(he-he), I don’t care.
I’m glad your here to make sure we know how quick and smart you are for catching it right away. Damn, you could a told us earlier.
Everything offends you, and nothing offends you.
Got it.
I admit I didn’t know what it was. I didn’t really pay attention as I was watching the fashion show stuff. I did notice the big lady and it sort of floated through my mind, “I wonder what that’s about.” I saw someone on the dope bitch about it as it was bad that they would, Mock Christianity when it was suppose to be about unity. At that time I thought I’d totally missed it. But as I saw more perfunctory outrage, on line, in the news, etc. I researched it a bit and looked at images.
The outrage is stupid even it they’d been “Mocking” the last supper (they were not) it shouldn’t have been a big deal. However, as said above the big problem with it was gay people and drag queens. If it had a bunch of average people dressed like clowns, mimes, or construction workers no one would have had a problem. Show a fat gay woman, a bunch of gay people, and OMG! *DRAG QUEENS!!!
Seriously, the people being very publicly and very loudly offended by this cannot let public acceptance of anything gay or especially drag go without a tantrum.
What you talkin’ 'bout.
Just reporting the facts.
Nothing about an overblown, over funded money wasting thing like a sports event even remotely offends me.
I watch more dramatic sports on my lawn and get a few laughs in the meantime.
Don’t need televised sports.
What offends me, kinda, is stealth brags about “Ooh, I know more than you cause I was aware of a barely observable, cryptic, silly thing on the Tube!”
Who gives a rare shit?
Is there a trope name for when you show more than 3 people at a table and no one has their back to the viewer?
I always called it sitcom seating
From now on, it shall be known of Mockery of Christianity.
That’s my question. Is The Last Supper mentioned in the bible as something that shouldn’t be mocked and should be worshipped? For fuck’s sake, it’s a PAINTING! It is art! Do “Christians” have a comprehensive list of art that cannot be messed with? Is Arrested Development on the blacklist for all Christians due to their Creation of Adam scene (BTW, hilarious).
I used to worry about a picture of a blond blue eyed Jesus. It’s eyes followed you around the room. Creepy
My great aunt had one in her bathroom. I asked her “Who that man was?”
She kinda slightly told me.
I told her get that outta there. It’s scary!
Religion and religious themes are in thousands of art world. You could talk about forever. None[date=2024-07-30 timezone="America/
I noted mention of the decapitated Marie Antoinette bit in the letter posted above, what was the issue with that?
Watching it would be a baseline prerequisite to forming an opinion about it.
We have to recognize that in other countries, people evidently have a better knowledge of art and culture than over here. Perhaps they didn’t realize they’d have to dumb it down for the Americans.
Bwahahahaha… you must be new here…
Well, there’s a bunch of us Americans on the board.
I don’t think but a few here were very outraged at scene.
Bothered by the phony outrage on the internet, yeah. That’s legit.
Again, watching it would be a baseline prerequisite to forming an opinion about it.
Not only is it a painting, but it is a fresco made over 1400 years after the event by someone with no firsthand knowledge of either the event nor the venue the dinner (allegedly) occurred in. And for what its worth, the Gospels, as contradictory as they are to one another, are pretty consistent in characterizing Jesus of Nazareth as having great tolerance and acceptance for a variety of different types of people, including quite notably a prostitute who essentially became an unnumbered apostle. In fact, the only people that Jesus is reported to have a real problem with are shameless hypocrites and those userously profiting upon the faith of other. Somehow, I think he’d find it within his moral charity to offer acceptance to some drag queens reenacting a bacchanalia, or even satirically foretelling his eventual death. And while it is only in subtext, he seems to have had a bit of a mischievous side to him; that turning water into wine gag was basically the first century version of spiking the punchbowl, right?
Arrested Development is definitely on the Evangelical Christian blacklist, and not because of the Creation scene; Michael seducing “Mrs. Veal” into the decadent secular lifestyle of loose seals, potent memory-wiping drugs, and fast staircars (gotta watch out for the hop-ons) is unforgivable. The cousin sex, on the other hand, is just fine in many Gulf states and maybe Kentucky. So, it isn’t all irredeemable trash, I guess.
I had a point when I began this but it has since escaped like an East German tobogganist at the the 1964 Winter Olympics.
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The best part is that whole segment was intended as a tribute to diversity and inclusivity. So of course it’s no surprise that a bunch of close-minded American shitheads would shriek, “NOT THEM! DON’T SHOW US THEM!”
My wife and I watched the whole opening ceremony live in prime time (since we’re two hours from Paris). We thought it was great, big and brash and heedlessly entertaining, throwing every idea at the wall for several straight hours. (Ghost on the rooftops! Pop stars! Giant half-submerged heads! Dancing bellboys! Marching band! Windows full of decapitated monarchs! Robot horse! And on and on and on.) Our only comment during this specific sequence was that some of the more conservative countries around the world would probably be unhappy and would just edit this segment out. We didn’t think about the fact that Jesustopia is an enclave country in the US and would have a similar reaction.
Personally, I think it has to be taken in context, because the whole opening ceremony hangs together conceptually. The planners, we decided, looked at previous Games for inspiration: “They did a demonstration of X, or a paean to Y, or an ode to Z. What should we do to show the world something new and interesting?” And somebody snapped their fingers and said, “I know! Let’s just be aggressively French at them.” And all else followed.
Gotcha. I saw all I could see, live. Not Primetime. I watched in early part of the day. Then peeked in and out later. I just wasn’t real sure what it represented. I kinda thought.
Then I heard about the outrage and looked at it a couple more times.
Could not understand it.
Don’t know about any one else.