In 2018 are political differences a dealbreaker WRT to new romantic relationships?

[Tempe_Jeff]

@JB99

Absolutely. I’ve said repeatedly over the past two years, ‘We don’t disagree on politics, we disagree on morality.’

I cannot fathom a moral universe in which the Republican positions makes sense. I can’t trust someone to be near my daughter if they want to grab women by the pussy. I can’t trust someone so willing to lie to me - or to repeat known lies to me - and I don’t know why anyone would be willing to have such a person in their life.

I thought things like ‘don’t lie,’ and ‘don’t be racist’ were just basic rules for human beings, but I guess I was wrong.

I have an aunt who once told me that gay people would cause the apocalypse. I just don’t know how to process that, and I’m tired to trying. It’s not a political difference, or a matter of opinion. She’s just a dumbfuck, and that’s all there is to it.

Good thing you hate Bill Clinton because, you know, he DID grab them by the Pussy. Hillary defended him repeatedly for it too.

[ThelmaLou]

@Tempe_Jeff

Good thing you hate Bill Clinton because, you know, he DID grab them by the Pussy. Hillary defended him repeatedly for it too.

There isn’t the remotest similarity between Bill Clinton and thump and you know it perfectly well. :rolleyes:

[Nava]

@Wesley_Clark

I think Jonathan Haidt does a good job of describing the division.

http://www.ethicsdefined.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Lib_VS_Cons.png

Liberals have 2 factor morality, conservatives have 5 factor morality. The left only cares about fairness and harm, the right cares about authority, ingroup and purity too.

If we’re going to look at it like that, I’d say this is a case the order of factors does alter the result. Caring about fairness and harm only if they do not affect imagined purity, only within your own group, and only when authority says you should… isn’t so much caring about fairness and harm as caring about not getting kicked out of the group for pissing the rest off.

[Melbourne]

@Pantastic

How is it ‘posturing’? It’s a direct question based on something that routinely happens in real life.

But that doesn’t answer the question I asked. They didn’t say that you were a mongrel, or that people like you should be sterilized, or that your kind should be kept away from them. They said that they don’t like a particular country and that they generally don’t like people from that country, which is radically different.

What are you talking about? I didn’t say anything that could reasonably be called offering a false dichotomy. I asked how you would respond to a simple example of a statement of a sort that I have seen people make on facebook, I didn’t assert that it and it’s negation were the only things people could post, or that there were only two possible answers you could give.

Also, are you saying now that if I posted this on facebook instead of SMDB, you’d refuse to be friends with me for something I posted on facebook and abandon the ‘what happens on FB stays on FB’ stance?

What I am saying is that your attempt to create an artificial question fails, because if you actually, asked /in real life/ that question, I would still be your friend. Your attempt at a fake insult fails because you choose to invent something that I deal with /in real life/.

If you want to invent a insult, and ask “would you object to this less on FB than in real life”, you have to make up something insulting that I would actually object to in real life.

Of course, this is all just a straw man, because the actual question was "In 2018 are political differences a dealbreaker WRT to new romantic relationships? ", not “are insults a dealbreaker”

[Miller]

@Melbourne

For most of my life, many people I meet have had that opinion about Americans. Several of my friends have told me that, in general, they don’t like Americans, and that the world would be better off without America, but that I personally am OK.

How many of your friends who say they hate Americans are actively working to make life worse for Americans? Like, are any of them campaigning to get Americans kicked out of Australia? Or limit the amounts of rights or government services American-born Australians can access? Because, yeah, if its just guys talking shit over beer, that’s pretty easy to ignore. That’s also not really equivalent to supporting policies and candidates that are going to directly target your rights, and which have a very real chance of becoming law.