In Australia, is it illegal to kill a poisonous snake?

No, a snake is not going about its business in a carport. There are not law courts or stock exchanges in carports.

I was involved with a construction project in Indonesia and spent several months there. People told me that if I were bitten by a snake it was important to bring it to the emergency room for just that reason.

In the plane on the way home I told this to the guy sitting next to me and he just about went nuts. He was an emergency room physician, and was tired of people showing up with half a dozen bites, the first from the initial strike, and the rest from attempts to kill the snake for identification purposes.

He was even more tired of people showing up with half a dozen snake bites and a not-quite dead snake in a brown paper bag, which ended up escaping far too often. The snake, not the bag.

He said, “If you’re bitten by a venomous snake, go to the hospital, period. We don’t need or want the snake.”

You have much to learn about fair dinkum Aussies, grasshopper :wink:

Oops. Sorry. I blame stui!

Wow. I’m gobsmacked by this attitude. They’re protected by the law because animals are inherently worth protecting, whether or not they have the ability to harm humans.

A brown snake will be territorial but if you make enough noise snakes normally scarper off into the bush. I have seen a lot of snakes over the years and even had 3 in the last 5 in my suburban back yard.

Seen a few swimming on the lakes when there were a lot of bush fires around, learn to keep away from them but as has been said snakes stay away if they can.

only if you use ya one eyed trouser snake mate!

I wrote 2 sentences in that paragraph. You got gobsmacked after the first one. Try reading the second one:
“I can understand it in a nature preserve, but why does the law apply to the company’s parking lot in a city?”

Us Yankees also have laws protecting wild (and dangerous) animals. But the general idea is to protect the wild animals in the wild.
When a Texas rancher sees a rattlesnake alongside his house, he’s gonna grab his shotgun.
Like a real man. :slight_smile:

http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/pr/laws/esa/text.htm#section9

So if you’re within the United States, you aren’t allowed to “take” (kill, capture, or wound) an endangered or protected animal. It has nothing to do with nature preserves. There’s an exception for self-defense:

But I don’t think parking lots or houses are people.

That’s hardly a blanket protection for every pest animal that comes down the pike. Per Wikipedia, the number of venomous snakes so protected in the U.S. amounts to exactly one.

I learned all I need to know about fair dinkum Aussies from the Chappell brothers in February 1981 :smiley:

I’ve learned to let it slide (but never forget) …

Don’t mention the war…

I never made such a claim.

And since you have admitted that you have no evidence for your claim, I think we can discount it.

Beg your pardon, it was Dioptre who made the statement.

I stand by what I said, you can discount it if you choose but the most common snakes to end up in a suburban yard are Brown and Black snakes.

Data point: It’s illegal to kill venomous snakes in Norway as well. It’s a law often broken though.

Crikey, they’re on to us!

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My Nan had a black snake move into her back porch for a month or so, two summers running. She used the front door until it moved out again.

If you encounter a venomous snake in an area where people may be at risk, you can call an animal control officer and they’ll come out and relocate it. I don’t know how long they’d take though as it’s never come up. I did call them once for a goat, but we’d already located the owners when they showed up, an hour or two later.

I did have one fun experience when I was about 12.

I was watching TV and Dad was sitting on the toilet reading the newspaper doing his business when a 3 foot brown snake slithered over his bare feet and into the shower.

Hot day, he’d been out bush driving, snake probably got caught up under the car and went for a cool spot. The yelling was something spectacular. Mind you, if you’r e going to have a brown snake slither over your bare feet, the best place to be is sitting on the toilet.:smiley:

This was the late 70’s, we were in a country town and there wasn’t an option to ring someone to come remove it.

Dad called me into the bathroom, got a hunk of pine from the woodbox and told me to open the shower door and he’d whack the snake. I suggested getting the shotgun, but he said mum would kill him for blowing apart the shower. So long story short, the snake copped a few blows to the head with a piece of firewood and was lobbed out the back yard for the crows.

Now it’s my turn to be gobsmacked.*
Gee … if you’re willing to live with a snake in your house, why not be a proper host, and invite it into your kitchen and living room, too?
Or,if you are such a good host that you don’t want to harm the snake, and in fact are willing to share your home with it, why not be a good host and invite some poor homeless guy to share your home, too?(After the snake moves out, I suppose :slight_smile: )

I have encountered rattlesnakes while hiking in the Rocky Mountains, and of course I leave them alone.
But damn…if one ever comes visiting me inside my own house, I’d commit first-degree murder, and have no guilt feelings about it. My only concern would be the practical aspect–can I safely kill it myself, or should I call an expert.

*(see araminty’s post above)

Animals are, or species? My understanding of the discussion is that it’s ok to kill non-native, invasive animals–just not native ones. That’s very different from the idea that all animals are inherently worth protecting as individual lives.

If you cut it’s head off with a shovel, you get a very short, very angry snake.

Don’t do that.

For what it’s worth, I found my nan’s attitude a little too blasé too, but it all worked out. The snake didn’t bother them, they didn’t bother the snake and everyone got on with their lives. Kept the porch nicely free of hobos too, at no extra charge.