But following Kedi’s logic, if China did invade Taiwan, it did it would be the US’s fault for promising to defend TaiwaN from said invasion. 
I read that the next day too. Good, the sooner the better but should be much sooner and more. Even if they are not the top model, it helps. More from everywhere would be good. Use the best in offensives, use the lesser ones for defence. Flank protection of the offence. I am sure Ukraine has a lot of experienced tank personnel. Just because you lose a tank does not mean all or even any of the crew is lost.
Yeah. Maybe they let it run loose in the forest and it didn’t come back when they whistled.
Where did you learn battle strategy-old reruns of F-Troop?
OMG, what a coincidence that you post about the US having a hard time supplying tanks right before an article comes out about the US speeding up their delivery.
Do you even know what a tank is? Do you know what happens inside it when it’s hit by a “tank killer” munition? Do you even care about anything other than posting praise of your hero?
Isn’t that the thread he was banned from?
He’s banned from posting there, not from reading it.
Lively brown furry things with short stumpy legs and great long noses?
He’s seen them at the zoo!
I don’t know what all the fuss is about, I could take out one of those.
Many tanks are lost due to mechanical failure during battle. When the crew is stressing the machine the most. They can evacuate without loss. Many are disabled by hits to the tracks. Again the crew can evacuate. Hits do not mean all the crew is killed. Mechanical failure does not mean all the crew is lost. Jeez I am saying something positive. Ukraine probably has experienced tank crew personnel ready to train in and use tanks that are delivered or captured. Get them the tanks ASAP.
Of course not, but Russian tanks have more than their share.
Can Russia keep up the artillery fire rates?
Seems unlikely.
If they are indeed firing 20000 rounds a day. Of course not every single day. It still seems unlikely they can sustain it.
The shop in Scranton U.S. puts out 14000 a month. About 3 shells a minute? Not bad when you see pictures of the plant. It is not a modern facility.
But to keep up the 20000 round a day fire rate would require 1 shell every 4 seconds?
Russia would need 5 times the production capacity of the U.S. plant. That is just for finished product. They would also need 5 times the whole material supply line to feed that.
I suspect they had an extra large stockpile. Due in large part to their basic military strategy and also in anticipation of this invasion.
Maybe they also have a larger in place production capacity. Again due to their basic strategy concepts. But 5 times the capacity? I have doubts about that.
I could definitely have made errors in calculations. The numbers are rough rounded even after possible basic mistakes.
It seems nobody knows or are not telling what they suspect or know about Russian shell manufacturing capability is. I think some intel agencies have a good estimate. But are not advertising the information.
Anybody seen any reputable estimates?
I know. My implicaiton was his calling it a joke is simply sour grapes.
Sorry, nobody here is interested in doing the Kremlin’s research for them.
Is Michael Scott pulling one of his typical shenanigans? Get the fuck outta here!
Oh crap I made a huge mistake in calculations.
Scranton produces 14000 a month. Russia fires 20000 a day. That is more than 30 times the rate. I got sidetracked into seconds per round and messed up the obvious big picture.
It just does not seem possible that Russia can keep production pace with use rates.
Could they?
For anyone actually interested in artillery shell production, stockpiles, and consumption - the ‘actually’ in that excludes our resident Komrad, or course* - who has an hour to kill, Perun put out another of his excellent videos on the topic two months ago.
Tidbits of interest from the video: Russian artillery fires have demonstrably dropped considerably during the winter compared to the rate they were firing it during the summer. There is a lot of production, production capacity, and stockpiles of 155mm NATO standard shells outside of the US. In NATO the Czech Republic and Spain have large ammunition production consortiums that one might not expect to find for nations of their size compared to European NATO nations with much larger economies such as France, Germany and the UK - all of whom themselves have substantial production capacities overlooked if one just focuses on US yearly production figures. The US also has a very huge stockpile of shells compared to yearly production figures.
Outside of NATO, there is a large production base for 155mm shells around the world, particularly in East Asia in countries like Australia, South Korea, and Singapore. South Korea hasn’t been willing to directly supply Ukraine but does backfill nations sending ammunition to Ukraine. They also have one of the largest stockpiles of artillery shells in the world, since they have a huge artillery park to deal with North Korea’s artillery park; they expect and have prepped for the artillery duel in a potential war to be a decisive deciding factor in its outcome.
Something also of interest that Perun mentioned in a different video that I noted in another thread is that Ukraine has asked for cluster munitions, Russia is indisputably using cluster munitions in the war. The US is unlikely to supply them for political reasons, as their use has been banned by a number of countries, including most of the West, due to their problematic nature when it comes to post-war unexploded ordinance disposal. The US itself has not signed the ban on their usage but has chosen to abide by it and hasn’t used cluster munitions since ~2004. Neither Russia nor the Ukraine have signed the ban. The US still maintains stockpiles of DPICM (dual purpose improved conventional munitions - artillery/MLRS fired cluster shells and rockets) that have been slowly working their way towards disposal. The amounts still on hand, should the US choose to supply them to Ukraine, is quite huge, at a minimum it is over a couple hundred thousand tons of DPICM ammunition, which would work out to including over a couple of million 155mm DPICM rounds.
The GLSDB actually uses the rockets from MLRS DPICM rounds that were being disposed of.
*Komrad, Didn’t you just rant and spout some nonsense about
It has been reported so early in the war and so often that it became a bit ridiculous. But as the war carries on it becomes a more realistic thing.
Kedikat’s sudden support for U.S. tanks for Ukraine is bizarrely at odds with his profound distress at the war’s carnage and the claim that Ukrainians are mere pawns in a U.S. proxy war against the poor Russians.
You get the impression that his head is spinning from all the different scripts he’s being handed, and he hasn’t had time to reconcile the contradictions.