In defense of "Baby, It's Cold Outside"

Well, that’s exactly the sort of response I’d expect from someone looking for love in all the wrong places. :wink:

Well, then she should quit whining and stay already. No one cares! This isn’t the past, or present - we’re living in the future. And it’s OK for women to like sex.

I’m beginning to believe this whole thing is yet another right-wing manufactured outrage along the lines of the “War On Christmas!!!”. There are a bunch of fake news stories out there(along with matching petitions) on Facebook about how the song is being banned by all the radio stations.

The link mentioned upthread mentions a few stations either removing it or considering it. And one running a poll about it where over 90% want it kept in rotation.

I haven’t seen claims that it’s being banned by “all the stations” but Facebook being what it is, I wouldn’t be surprised to see anyone saying it either. Most popular memes (or what passes for a meme these days) are a back-and-forth argument ending with some version of “It’s not that great of a song anyway!”.

One station removed it, and other stations are discussing it because it is a hot button topic that increases the listenership. There is no censorship problem going on here, just hyped up manufactured rage for the sake of ratings.

I’m not calling it censorship. I’m saying that the “stations are ‘banning’ it” thing isn’t made of whole cloth.

Honestly, the “Date Rape!” argument sounds just as much like recreational outrage to me as the “War on Christmas!” argument so I can see why the “Gah, everyone shut up” meme is winning on my Facebook feed.

“Stations”? What stations have actually banned it?

From the article linked previously:

Stations. Sheesh. :rolleyes:

This song is from an era when it was harder for women in America to own their sexuality, it’s still too hard for a lot of people. The song is a play on the kind of dance people had to go to in order to have sex. This song is from a time when women who enjoyed sex were sluts, when Jews couldn’t join country clubs and when black people couldn’t sit where they wanted on a bus. America was a fucked up place and because it was so fucked up, men used the fact that women couldn’t expressly state their sexual desires to take advantage of them and then later claim that “she wanted it.” The woman in the song may want to stay over, but it’s much better to live in a time when adults can just fuck when they want to fuck.

Some radio stations decided that this song from a fucked up time in America is no longer relevant to their listeners and decided not to play it any more. Other people are outraged by that fact, why I’m not sure.

2 whole stations? Wow!
There are 11, 341 commercial radio station is the U.S., which means we are talking about 0.017% percent of the radio stations that have stopped(or temporarily stopped) playing this one song. Of course I haven’t filtered out news stations and the like…but if you could, through various filters, get the number of effected stations up to a whopping 0.1% I would be surprised. When you throw in the number of stations that have added the song or played it more often just to make headlines, then I daresay this has actually turned from an incredibly minuscule problem to to an actual plus as far as that song is concerned.

They better go after Jingle Bells next–after all, how are one-horse open sleighs relevant to modern listeners?

You mean the same two radio stations that stopped playing Baby It’s Cold Outside? I think we’ll survive.

Who cares? I said “stations” and you went on some pedantic “Oh, stations, huh?” like you were going to get me on there only being the one in Cleveland. There was more than one – so you put an “s” at the end. That’s how plurals work. I also put “banning” in quotes because I don’t think that’s really the appropriate word for it. Yes, people going nuts over it being off the air from some… two… one… whatever stations is dumb. So is going ape irate over how it must be a rape song because people don’t grasp history or context. So it goes – give people a reason to whine and bitch and they’ll grab and defend it.

I would argue that the people not grasping history and context are the ones defending the song. They seem to be incapable of grasping that context changes and that we view history in a different light now and that a song where a woman can’t express her sexual desire is fucked up. Also, I think that the defenders of the song are the ones who are looking for a reason to whine and bitch.

At Christmastime? Not me!

Oh, I think the Mouse expresses desire pretty damn plainly.

Or just point and snicker.

Like I said, a publicity stunt.

No, the whole point of context is that it doesn’t change and thus allows you a view into what something is actually about by looking at the surrounding circumstances.

You have two groups of people (“Date rape!” “War on Christmas!”) trying desperately to make a major thing out of a rather minor thing and picking it apart for any “evidence” to fit their agenda even if those things don’t actually hold up to examination.

Now I’ve got relatives posting versions of the stupid song with the tag “Come on, post it! I dare you!!!” How brave![not enough :rolleyes: in the whole fucking world for this shit].

I don’t care about the rape. I just don’t like the song.