In defense of "Baby, It's Cold Outside"

One side greatly outnumbers(and outshouts) the other, and when met with little to no resistance shouts all the louder.

Censorship?

During the last couple of years i’ve re-watched the Thin Man movies, and the one thing that really stood out to me (when it’s a familiar movie I notice the details a lot more) was the size of the glasses.

There’s one scene where Nick is sitting at the bar with six or seven cocktails lined up in front of him. The glasses are tiny. The equivalent amount of alcohol today would maybe stretch to two glasses. Now, I check it out when watching movies of that vintage, and it’s the same thing. Compared to today, the drink portions were very small. One or two gulps (five sips?) max.

I completely agree with your first paragraph. There were repercussions way beyond just having busy bodies up in your business back then. Birth control (pre-pill) was pretty fraught and negative effects were all on the woman.

Your second paragraph? Eh. I don’t care if people still play it or not. It’s a fairly silly little nothing of a song. I like a lot of Frank Loesser’s songs, but this one is not one of his best.

That doesn’t make this a hill to fight over. “Happy Holidays”, sure, acknowledge various cultures. Not putting up religious displays on public land, sure. Trying to make this song into a paean for date rape or lack of agency? Nope. One side might be louder but both sides are stupid.

Good to know.

Of course, we all understand that a few radio stations deciding not air a song is not censorship.

Private companies, of course, can do whatever they want. But should they? Should public readings of Huck Finn be allowed?

By whom?

Interesting story. That programming director sounds like kind of a cool guy.

I thought the point about hip hop was well stated. It’s not even comparable, how much worse the gender politics is in many rap songs.

Huh, interesting. Do you think those drinks were maybe stronger?

Then filter out stations that would never play it anyways. In Canada a bunch of big names have pulled it from their Christmas stations/playlists.

Those are all big players in the Canadian market.

How do I filter out Canadian stations from the list of commercial U.S. stations I mentioned? :dubious:

You don’t. I’m merely pointing out that it’s happening at more than the 2 stations you’re scoffing at.

I specifically mentioned U.S. stations, which was reinforced by the statistics concerning U.S. stations that I posted. Once again, please tell me how I filter out Canadian stations from a list of U.S. stations.

It sucks because there is no other way to hear a song than on broadcasts over the airwaves. It’s not like you could download and play it, or go to some magical Pandora’s Box of music and request it. Anyone not currently humming, singing or playing the song right this minute is engaged in censorship of the worst kind.

If the call letters start with C, they’re Canadian. K or W, American.

Don’t mention it.

I check my list of U.S. Stations, and apparently all the ones starting with the letter “C” have already been filtered out, and therefore have no bearing at all with that list.

Chillax dude. Sorry if it was confusing but I was making two different points. A bunch of Canadian stations are dropping the song. Also, you can’t just filter out news and sports stations because alt rock and hip hop stations were also never going to play the song. A number of stations go all-Christmas this time of year; how many of them have dropped the song would be a good number to know.

The phrase “what’s in this drink?” at the time was more or less code for, “Holy shit! Did I just say that out loud?”

Jingle Bells promotes animal cruelty, the way the riders make that poor horse dash through the snow while they laugh and sing.

(I just made that up, nobody tell PETA)