Two words–President Cheney.
Reason enough to keep Bush in office.
can I hear an AMEN Brother!
I honestly don’t believe that Cheney as president, at this point in time, would be the disaster some people think it will. Cheney’s approval rating makes Bush’s look like the ratings for American Idol. He has 1/10 of the charisma that Bush has. The 28%ers would rapidly become the 4%ers, except among the undead and possibly oil company executives (though the overlap is high enough that there may not be a HUGE bloc of supporters in that coupling).
You left out the statistic that Cheney would claim 123% of the Executive power that Bush has staked out. That’s what scares me.
I didn’t have a lot of respect for you before now, but this revolting display has blown away the last of it. You are a pig.
Let’s not leave out the Republicans in the 110th. If enough of them would support impeachment, it could happen. If they don’t, beginning the process would be a waste of time. Far better for the Dems to continue to pass measures that mean something and do the investigations and oversight the Republicans neglected.
Impeachment would just create a “martyr” for the Right to diefy. Better the death of a thousand cuts. Let the Bush administration twist slowly in the wind until the rotted corpse is plain to every eye. It will serve as an object lesson for the future.
There is a spiritual gathering that happens around the US called ‘The Rainbow Gathering’, high hippie content, but it’s an interesting event. One time it was in Utah and it kept getting sent up the ranks until Ashcroft gave the approval to the manager of the national forest who approved it. This was at the height of when everyone thought that Ashcroft was really heavy handed and would be automatically against that sort of large gathering on US soil. It was a sort of shift in perception for thousands of people on the man, and was kind of interesting to see how that worked out, because his underlings in Utah were trying to nix it. Since then I’ve been relatively fond of the old coot, and have liked him when I have seen him on TV.
Not a terrible person I don’t think, but he is tarnished by his work for the administration in other ways. That’s the life of a politician I suppose.
Nah…there’s lots of people who are thrilled to have him back (yet again!). Apparently he fills some sort of token “dickhead conservative” role.
-Joe
All of these scandals, however, will be thrust away by the coalition of the willing. criminal prosecutions, however, are harder to overlook.
silenus:
Well, let’s just wait and see. The experts I’ve heard so far clearly concur that the administration has committed “high crimes and misdemeanors”, so it’s really just a matter of political will now. As more and more comes to light in these Congressional investigations, we may yet see a swing toward impeachment.
This slow death of a thousand cuts might eventually lead us there.
mswas:
Are you trying to tell me that Ashcroft personally approved a Rainbow Gathering?
I really find that hard to believe.
No argument there. But impeachment is the nuclear option. Better to just keep on handing down indictments against every Bush zombie they can gather the evidence against. It will be hard for him to gather any public support at all if half his administration has resigned and the other half is in prison.
He did, I know the guy who signed the permit. Ashcroft didn’t sign off on it himself, he let the jurisdiction make the choice without interfering where his underlings chose to interfere. Some political interests in Utah tried to make a federal case out of it, and when it got to Ashcroft he didn’t make a fuss about it.
The dude got a lot of shit from a lot of people for even going through the process of getting a permit.
I believe the condition’s medical term is recto-cranial inversion. Not sure to date what the treatment options are.
We have several candidates for that role.
Muchly.
You guys are completely missing the point here. You did hear that there are possibly rules violations by Representative Murtha, right? That’s the real story!
Absolutely; if the Republicans in Congress and the Senate truly value the Constitution, where the hell are they in the calls for impeachment? The Dems don’t have a clear majority; trying to impeach Bush would be an exercise in futility so long as people are willing to abandon principles to support the party line. I frankly don’t understand how anyone, anywhere at any time can continue to support Bush or his policies.
For a lot of them, they’ve already placed their bets, they are in no position to try and cut their losses. GeeDub keeps offering them scraps of hope, that there’s a new strategy, there’s a secret plan, something that cannot be discussed openly.
If, by some miracle, Iraq would totally turn around on his watch, he (and they) would win the political jackpot of the century, the only questions would be issues like the proper form of address for President for Life Bush. Caudillo, perhaps? Something like that.
You and I can’t see that, but if they want to see it, desperately need to see it…they will see it. When they are told of small, encouraging signs, they will believe it. What else they got?
To again return to the OP, there are some other things to say in praise of Ashcroft. It was his habit to bring in new hires and tell them “politics stops at the door”. According to this site, he said so directly to David Iglesias. I recall a an interview with a recent Justice retiree who said exactly the same thing about Ashcroft, but at the moment I can’t find a cite.
Ok, so the man had some kind of marble breast phobia, but he apparently understood that his personal political and religious beliefs did not necessarily have to play a roll in his job.
I apologize to John Ashcroft for all the vitriol I spewed out in the past about him. To set your personal beliefs aside from your professional responsibilities is more difficult than I had personally assumed, and I failed to give him suffieient credit for that.