Trying to save a little dignity here dimmi? You were very aggressively name calling russia connections a “retarded” idea. “How could anyone have any leverage over don the con? He has no cares, don’t you see! How could his taxes show anything. Stop trying to distract from how bad hillary clinton was. Retarded!”
So the retards got lucky? Just a wild shot in the dark.
Getting some real world experience and ideas now, dimdum? You are really an idiot, comrade.
Vote SETH PECKSNIFF for our next RNC Chairman! He’s got the goods!
What happened is that someone gave someone else a heads-up that an event in Flint would feature discussion of Flint’s water problems. That’s not “feeding questions,” and you’d have to be an idiot to pretend it is.
No, what you’re making up is your claim that they’re somehow proof of anything untoward. They don’t say what you pretend they say, and you’d have to be a functional illiterate to pretend they did.
Someone venting some mean words about a white supremacist is not evidence that they actually took steps to materially intervene in the primary process against said white supremacist. It’s incredibly fucking stupid to pretend they are.
I was talking about the one you are the representative of on this board, dummi.
And you are deflecting here again. I predict that your career as a poster under this name will have about the same lifespan and arc as don the con’s presidency. Could that be a coincidence? A lot of hot air is starting to become smoke and ash.
My bad.
My opinion on this issue is evolving as the facts evolve, I don’t thin there is anything undignified about that. Do your opinions ever evolve with the facts?
Like I said, the Russia probe was a fishing expedition, blaming Hilary’s loss on Russian tampering was and still is retarded. There is nothing about what the Russians did that changes the fact that Hillary cheated during the primary and the DNC wanted to undermine the Bernie campaign.
Yep. That’s about it.
Let’s see what comes of this. It looks bad for Trump, this is just the break the Hillary campaign was waiting for. :rolleyes:
Damuri Ajashi wrote: " Because AFAICT, all the disinformation that people are talking about was only credible to people to people who were going to vote for Trump already. I mean seriously. Was there anyone that was on the fence or even not really interested in voting at all who decided they had to vote for Trump because Hillary was running a white slavery rings out of the basement of a new jersey pizzeria?"
When you’re talking about a 20 plus year long smear campaign you reach a point where the actual content of the charges doesn’t matter any more, just the sheer volume. The volume is what reaches people and does factor in to peoples voting practices, even if they may not believe any particular, er, particular. Not that it’s the decisive factor, mind you, but it’s a thumb on the scale. And the fact that Hillary is still walking around isn’t taken as indicative of the stuff being bull shit, but is spun as further proof of the depth of her skills at evading responsibility for her “actions”. Such is the “thought” process of these folks.
Did Bernie get the same heads up?
Are you under the impression that this was the only question that Donna Brazile fed to the Hillary campaign?
Perhaps you should look at those links I provided again. Hillary cheated, that’s just a fact. Her cheating might not bother but I suspect that there is nothing she could do that would bother you.
Cheating is untoward.
The DNC conspiring to undermine the Bernie campaign is untoward. The fact that you think there is nothing wrong with this says more about Hillary’s supporters than anything else.
Are you trying to use an a analogy or are you saying that Bernie is a white supremacist?
How would you feel if Trump got a heads up during one of his debates with Hillary and we just found out today?
How would you feel if the folks who counted the ballots in the rust belt states were sending emails to one another discussing how to undermine Hillary’s campaign?
If your moral compass fails when it becomes inconvenient, you don’t really have much of a moral compass, you have partisanship.
In what way am I representative of a disinformation campaign on this board?
What am I deflecting? You need to write more clearly, we can’t see your facial expressions or read your mind through the internet.
I’ve been here a while now. About 10 more years than you.
Oh OK so the disinformation campaign that drad dog was talking about is not something that necessarily happened during the campaign, it was stuff that happened up to 20 years BEFORE the campaign? Why did we nominate such a damaged candidate? Out of fairness to her?
Did we think she could win or did the Ready for Hillary crowd tell us she WOULD win and now make excuses about why she didn’t? Excuses that touch on her electability before the first primary vote was cast.
Sure, Hillary is an amateur, neither her nor anybody on her staff could possibly expect a question about Flint’s lead water problem if Donna B. hadn’t given them a sooper-seekrit clue. Uh-huh. Sure. Hugh Betcha!
Ockam’s razor strikes again. The story WAS out there.
Way, way out there. Far out, but not groovy.
Not dominant, at best a narrow victory. And it is crushing when you considered she managed to lose to such an unelectable piece of shit candidate like Trump. Trump was extremely beatable. Stop deceiving yourself. Hillary was a shitty candidate. I voted for her, but I didn’t like it. I know how unlikable she is.
Question, posed in a different thread. How many more silly old “popular” votes might she have gotten and still lost? Another three million? Five, ten?
OK that would be a long game I admit. I just think you are gorging on hillary hatred hyperbole and burning up your credibility to comment on things.
Check the “volume” of your posts, vs the content.
I’m glad you have woken up, but Trump has never hidden or been good at hiding anything about himself for this whole cycle. It’s not credible that those concerned before you have become (This week?) were alarmists or are “retarded.” Nobody said anything was “the reason” for 2016. They are saying they have had their eyes open for a year now, unlike yourself apparently. To not see any patterns in the public record so far (of corruption and abuse, most probably criminal), is not credible for a thinking person. And to focus on clinton, in some kind of finger wagging exercise constantly is like lighting a fire under your already spindly and dry intellectual credibility.
You said there wasn’t disinformation. There’s some right there.
Did it affect the election? I don’t know. Maybe.
What a stupid thing to write.
Fake news and disinformation isn’t generally spread through legitimate news organizations because they’re not that easily fooled. It’s spread through fake news sites that are linked to on Facebook, Twitter and the like, or through openly phony news sources like Infowars and the National Enquirer. The “Clinton is brain damaged” story was well covered on Breitbart. Low information voters can be fooled by Facebook links to sketchy websites. The Russians aren’t dumb enough to call up CNN and say “Comrade, we have a scoop for you about a pizza pedophilia ring.” They fill the internet with this crap, use bots, flood commentary sections.
Then you weren’t paying attention.
You wanted examples of fake news that likely originated in Russia, there’s three. You were wrong.
I actually saw this, wonder how many other Dopers did? The people I know tend to be high information and high interest, politics wise. Also, a good proportion of Bed Hair Bernie fans, who were poked and prodded constantly by “Hillary has kidnapped Bernie’s grandkids!” and such like. I saw them, dozens of them! Did you?
About ninety percent of them or more were “sourced” to sites that did not exist the day before, or the day after. Americans Against Facist Hillary is totally 404 Not Found, for instance. (I made that one up. I think…)
Given FB’s algorithm to stream you stuff you are presumed to be interested in, I wonder how many FB users never saw much of anything like that?
Then, of course, you have people who are literally too stupid to realize that a headline like “Pope endorses trump” is FUCKING SATIRE. (I swear, my wife had five people on Facebook send her that article.)
You misread that. It was: ““Pope” “endorses” trump”"