In this vid of a police takedown, what is the officer holding?

A quick vid of police subduing a wild guy, who is tased by a male officer. At :30 a female officer is the first to approach him (she dives in, literally) and seems to be holding something carefully in front of her towards the man. What is it?

looked like a baton held in a defensive position.

She just triped & fell on the other side of the car as she came up.

She was the last to get ikn hands reach of the perp.

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Looks like a stun baton. It would explain why she’s holding it like that… Or perhaps she broke her wrist during her Ninja approach…

I thought of something like that, but then I decided no such thing exists.

What is it, a taser on a baton stick?

Stun batons.

We don’t have anything like that but I just wanted to say, damn that was embarrassing.

Can’t quite make out whether she tripped and fell, or dropped out of sheer exhaustion after running from her vehicle.:smiley:

She was uh… ducking… cause he might’ve had a gun!

Quoth Jon Lovitz.

I don’t think it’s a regular collapsible baton. She wouldn’t have that closed and that would be an incorrect way of holding it.

It does look like a stun baton, which do exist though I know of no agencies that carry them. I have a really nice stun gun/flashlight, but I’ve never been allowed to carry it.
I’ve never dealt with stun batons, even when working in lockup we didn’t have them. So I have no idea how they are carried or held.

The dive she took was weird. It doesn’t seem like she did that on purpose, and if you watch her feet it doesn’t really look like she tripped, either. Perhaps the grass was moist and she slipped. Or maybe her knee gave out or something while she was running.

Yeah, it looked to me like she slipped on wet grass, but it’s hard to tell.

I was able to enhancethe photo and see the item in question…

It looks like a Monadnock PR24 side handle baton. They used to be pretty standard issue law enforcement equipment before they were replaced by the expandable batons for easier carry.
Some agencies still use the PR24.
http//www.code3tactical.com/pr-24-batons.aspx

I have not laughed that hard in ages! THANK YOU SO MUCH!

:smiley: vid. I think you forgot to enhance the z-axis for what you think you’ve found.

Willing to accept that… but why approach with it being carried that way? It seems an ineffective approach if you want to use the business side of it the best way possible on the perp. I mean.. Her arm is 100% outstreched, and that’s nothing more than a “whacking stick”. How well can you whack with your arm fully extended?

She’s an idiot. Notice how when the suspect is down with 3 guys on top of him, she continues to hold it in front of her like it’s a fucking holy symbol or something, even as she’s bending over him. And what’s with the other arm back and up like she’s in some kind of fencing pose?

In one of the many jobs I had as a youth, I was a DJ at a strip club (Which, BTW, totally took the bloom off the rose for me going to strip clubs as a patron ever again).

But, they had a stun baton in the booth with me. That thing was nasty and I actually had to pull it out once and turn it on (Though never used it).

However, it made a large and loud sizzle sound when I turned it on and the entire freaking room (Which was in the middle of a bar room brawl) stopped and turned towards me…

It demanded you respect its Authoritah!

When I watch it in full screen it looks like it could be a PR24. But I agree with the confusion over how she’s carrying it.

No agencies I know of issue them. The training is different than that of a regular baton. I have never been trained on one nor am I certified to instruct training on it. When I went to instructors school for defensive and arrest tactics back in '91 we were told about some controversial training on the PR24 on the west coast.
Seems some departments were training their officers to throw the thing like a Tomahawk at the back of a suspect they were chasing.

I can’t even begin to list what I find wrong with that!

My point is, if it is a PR24 maybe that agency trains to hold it that way. You’d be surprised how much training and tactics can vary across the country.

Not a PR24. Too short. There are collapsible '24s but there’s no side handle on this one that I can see. It seems too large in diameter to be an ASP collapsible baton, and since it survived her fall, maybe not a Swiss Roll!

Notice that she goes down empty-handed, but has the object in hand as she rounds the front of the car.

It’s her flashlight that jumped ship when she fell; she picked it up, and is holding it in a standard blocking position. I prefer the windup, myself. Lets the perp really feel where you stand on the whole “runnin from the po-po” issue! :smiley: