OK, so I get it that some of them seem to think that any woman should drop and spread her legs for them because they are interested in her … and seem to get pissy because women are not flocking to sleep with any man that asks …
So what do they do if they are hitting on a married woman who turns them down because she is monogamous? Should a married woman still flop and spread them just because they want her or are married women exempt from their stupid beliefs?
Pretty sure the Bro code assigns no ego injury for getting shut down by a married woman.
Not my field, but I get the impression they’re more concerned with their own sense of aggrieved entitlement than with logic. And perhaps they would be thinking a “good” married woman wouldn’t be using the kind of places they would be using to meet women.
I also think that people give more credence to their stated grievances than is warranted, because in the same breath that they complain that women won’t sleep with them, they also condemn women who have “too much” sex with men that aren’t them. They demand they be given access to the top desirability echelon of women but furiously reject any suggestion that they might consider tempering their expectations to the reality of their own desirability.
Honestly, the fact that incels spend all their time performing and communicating with other men regarding their utter contempt for women as a whole kinda tends to make me think there’s a whole lotta closet cases out there and I wish they’d all get busy with each other and leave us women alone. They’re panting for the D way more than we are.
I doubt the average incel would value “monogamy” as a reason for him to have been turned down.
I think these people are deeply misogynistic, and would expect even a married woman to “put out” because “all women are sluts”.
But I think on this particular board you will only get speculative answers because no one here identifies (or is reasonably suspected to be) as “incel”
You probably need to wade into the mire of reddit’s incel forums and ask them yourself.
They are very anti liberal. I have to think that marriage, not to mention the “defense” of it, is something they recognize, as part of rw solidarity.
The rw types are finding each other a lot lately, very happy to do so, and finding electoral success in it. It wouldn’t be in keeping with that to go anti-marriage.
Since this cannot be answered factually unless someone has access to a written copy of the Bro code, let’s move it to IMHO.
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From what little I know, they may claim she is with the wrong guy who doesn’t deserve her.
Basically, he will either think she is lying about being married, or he will decide that she fell in love,got married and had a bunch of kids for the sole purpose of turning down and humiliating his incel self years later. He will not be gracious.
Guys are crazy like that sometimes. The build things up in their heads that are out of touch with reality. I went out to lunch with a guy like that once. I was engaged at the time. The invitation that was extended revolved around a business matter. I was pretty sure he wasn’t really serious, just looking for the excuse. But it would have reflected poorly on me if my manager found out I had declined to pursue the opportunity being offered. He originally asked me to dinner. In the interest of clarity, my written response was something along the lines of:
Steve
I would like to discuss this opportunity. However, I reserve my evenings for my family and social life. We need to schedule something during business hours. Lunch maybe?
Which I thought made everything crystal clear. I went to lunch with the guy. I brought some materials relevant to our discussion, which involved some sort of sales lead sharing arrangement. He seemed disinterested. I kept trying to take it back to business.
Afterwards he said something about “enjoying our date”. I informed him that I was engaged and I thought I had made it clear it wasn’t a date.
He said something like “ So, THATS how you’re going to play it”, crumpled the paper we had been working on, threw it at me and stormed off.
Five freaking years later I was at the airport when I spotted him in a group with several people I knew, we were all traveling to the same convention. I approached the group for a collective hello. He glared at me and stormed off. 5 years later.
This was before incels, but I bet this guy would have been one.
Is online okay, or do you want the print version?
So what does it say regarding the OP?
So, rw = red wave?
Am I close?
Virtually every thread about this is full of projections about what incels are like, winding up with wild conjectures or ruminations, like figuring out the mating and eating habits of the unicorn or centaur. (of course, it’s not like we can exactly invite incels to come share their views.)
It’s my understanding that most incels aren’t approaching women. They’ve given up. Self-loathing is a huge part of the whole thing. It’s like “Women are shitty, immoral, gold-digging sluts, and the only ones that are acceptable as sexual partners are choosing genetically superior guys because they are ruled by evolutionary psychology and I can’t be blamed for the fact that I only want to fuck attractive women because evolutionary psychology and there’s no hope for me because it’s all pre-programmed and I lost, look at my jawline, I suck”. They don’t think women have sentience, really. We are responding to biological imperatives.
They aren’t angry at WOMEN. They are angry at the universe, and they lash out as women out of scorn and frustration, not out of anger at women for not choosing them. They lash out at women because they are too cowardly to lash out at men.
Incels are not Bros, so the code does not apply.
Incels come in many varieties, so there is no one-size-fits-all characteristic; indeed, aside from not getting laid or in a relationship, they often have almost nothing in common. (Various racial, religious, etc. backgrounds)
But to answer the OP, if using Elliot Rodger as one example (and again, he is but one out of a diverse field of incels,) his manifesto never describes him as approaching married women or having any expectations from married women. Mainly, he pined for women from afar, didn’t approach them, and expected them to approach him (he describes how he went to considerable lengths to dress up and look good, only to be dismayed when women didn’t notice it in the least.) Rodger seemed to think that women regard men the same way men regard women - namely, that because men will hit on a woman who looks good, that therefore women would voluntarily approach him if he looked good.
But, again, no mention of married women whatsoever - I think incels understand full well that such women are off-limits.
Boy the shit I learn on here. I figured incel was some kind of computer or software term and was utterly confused by the questions and answers. Googled it and whada ya know.
Involuntary celibate? I mean, isn’t that anyone who gets turned down?
Heh. It does sound like a company name, doesn’t it?
I did some googling and it turns out there is a company called Incel. I have a hunch that it’s shorthand for Industrial Cellulose since they make cellulose and paper products.
The company isn’t doing well, so apparently they aren’t getting what they want either.
So why don’t you fix that? It sounds like you have insider knowledge here.
Sounded like a biological term to me, like DNA or photosynthesis.