What EddyTeddyFreddy said.
Sorry, I should have been more specific.
Now, now Miller, Avon is a suburb of Indianapolis (on the west side).
I’m ashamed to admit it now, but I grew up there. Great, the first time my hometown gets mentioned on the SDMB and it’s because of this idiot. :rolleyes:
Sorry to slag your hometown, MaddyStrut. I’m sure it’s mostly lovely.
John Lennon said it better “Jesus was all right, but his disciples are thick and ordinary.”
I actually work variations of that into conversations. Usually if someone is bitching about someone else, I’ll then add “but Jesus is all right”.
Those who recognize the reference always crack up.
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Anyway, to a certain degree he’s right. There is a very strong Wahhabist undercurrent throughout an awful lot of Muslm states and nations with a muslim minority today. We can be thankful they aren’t really a majority, but the problem is, they are tolerable to the majority.
If there is no original sin in Islam, and saved by works, then this is NOT the same God as in Chrsitianity.
thank you.
yes it is.
obviously not.
so God her/himself declared that salvation is only by faith alone?
So God said there is no original sin?
Why did Jesus die then?
:rolleyes:
when exactly was this concept of original sin created?
And I’ve met more than one person who believes that the God that Catholics and moderate Protestants pray to isn’t the same one that the Fundists pray too. And your point being??
Well it wasn’t created, so much as ripped off from another idea.
Because he forgot the safety word?
It always amuses me to hear/read people trying to define God, as if God could possibly be understood by any consciousness so much more limited than his/hers/its, or be jammed and crammed into the narrow confines of any human construct. We will always see as if through a glass, darkly, when it comes to knowing what the Divine thinks. To claim to know God’s mind, to me, is hubris of the rankest sort.
In other words, consider the parable of the blind men and the elephant. At least I don’t recall any of the blind men setting out to exterminate anyone who didn’t accept his description.
I think I love you.
And no, you don’t owe me for a new keyboard, but only because I’ve already finished my morning soda.
It was created by Augustine in about 480 or so.
I think I love you, too. But me, you owe a new monitor. Diet pepsi all over this one! :eek:
Augustine elucidated it and expanded it more, but the concept of a stained existence and now-imperfect existence comes straight out of Genesis.
Alright, sure. Very well-rounded post, by the way. Nice and punchy. As for the point…
Okay, the teachings of Christ alone generally sound good to me. Emphasis on generally. If memory serves, though, didn’t Christ agree with the OT? Can anyone give me a cite that points in that direction?
Additionally:
It infuriates me (in extreme cases, a good deal of it just makes me piffle) when sects of Christianity (and this applies to many of them!) include hateful material that they agree with, and don’t include what they don’t agree with. If the Bible is infalliable, why are you changing it? If the Bible is falliable, then… What’s the point?