I have a strange feeling you’re not particulary fond of children.
What are the parents supposed to do leave them home alone? I find the whole tone of your post rather offensive.
What is the name of this logical fallacy?
A: "I don’t like it when babies cry.
B: “Why are you so in favor of yelping puppies and drunken morons!”
I’m getting pretty tired of this sort of “logic.”
Pink Floyd Reference! I win the thread.
Also, to your other points Rune, yes, Malaysian airline stewardesses are perfect but from a purely practical point I get the feeling that mere mortals don’t stand a chance. Whereas the slightly less “glossy” staff that inhabiting the aisles of BA/AA etc. offer something more attainable. One suspects that they would, and they’d be dirty as well.
And to the OP? get a grip. You know the risks when you buy your ticket. They allow other human beings on the plane too so…tough!
That’s why I always carry earplugs when I fly. I can tolerate crying babies on a plane better than when I go out to a restaurant or movie.
No “reds” in “In the Flesh”.
Can we at least ban babies from First Class?
Yeah, because if it weren’t for the crying babies, flying would be an awesome experience. There’s nothing I love more than being packed in nose-to-butthole with 200 strangers while we all pretend that we’re not inhaling each other’s body soil and farts.
We went to France a couple of weeks ago on vacation. There was a maybe 2-year-old French kid sitting a few rows back who jibber-jabbered throughout the flight, but he was mostly adorable.
The best part was our descent in to CDG - we hit some pretty hairy turbulence, and everybody was looking a little green and glancing around nervously. Except for this kid; he loved it, going “Woooo! WHEEEEE! PAPA! WHEEEEEEE!” and giggling every time the bottom dropped out from under us. It made me smile, and briefly distracted everyone from contemplating the likelihood of their own doom.
Here’s an idea: set aside various flights for parents with infants. Fill out these flights with kids from the local junior and senior high schools. The parents reach their destinations quickly without annoying other travelers, and the high school kids learn about the consequences of unprotected sex without all the drama caused by trying to teach sex ed in schools. 
What? Did you read the post I was replying to?
The logical fallacy was hers, not mine. She’s claiming that babies are the *only *annoying thing on planes getting a ‘free pass’, whereas puppies are completely silent and problem free and drunk people never, ever get to stay on the plane. I was just pointing out that it’s foolish to claim that babies form the only group capable of irritating others without consequence. I wasn’t trying to claim that *anyone *is ‘in favor of yelping puppies and drunken morons’, just that they are a fact of life just like crying babies.
“Non sequitur”. Alternatively: “I’m a blazing moron”.
Screw that, I don’t fly first class! Put the babies up there!
Your story made me smile, black rabbit.
No, she pretty much did not say that.
just for the record, i don’t have a problem with infants flying free, although i understand the OP’s frustration. but i find this type of statement really fucking grating, and it always seem to come up in this type of thread.
just because someone doesn’t have kids does not mean they’re living it up and their biggest problem is trying to sleep off a hangover. everyone has their own struggles, some of them severe.
fair enough, and i won’t deny any of that, but here’s another perspective:
maybe the passenger who is annoyed by the crying baby is:
- going to a funeral
- racing to say goodbye to a family member who is about to pass
- just got fired
- just got divorced/split from partner
- has legal trouble
etc. etc.
i’ll gladly defer to the parents in how to best comfort and parent their child. i don’t know how to stop a baby crying and i won’t pretend to, but please quit writing off other people’s problems as being some frivolous bullshit because they don’t have children.
From Waiting For The Worms:
“Waiting…for the queens and the coons and the reds and the jews.”
Or at least they’ve managed to eliminate that tiresome labor-loving drivel about not throwing good workers out on their asses once their years of hard work have started to show up on their faces:
Serves you right for being sucker enough to fly with airlines based in countries that actually care about how companies treat their workers, rather than solely about the quality of the Oriental-Beauty tits that the workers present for your visual enjoyment.
Ummm, she pretty much did. I don’t see how else to read her post. But if you (and apparently BPC) want to pretend that I’m the one with the crazy logical fallacy rather than curlcoat, I guess I can’t stop you.
I generally find that there’s no more solid and reliable SDMB rule than this: “If curlcoat is agreeing with me, I must be wrong.”
Me and the guy sitting next to me came up with a lot of ways very quickly:
– Alcohol
– Duct tape
– Guitar strings that I had in my bag
– pillows given by the aircraft
– baseball bat
– emergency exit doorway
Idon’thatekidswhydoeseveryonethinkIhatekids
I should make clear, in case it weren’t obvious, that my earlier quip about the service personnel on airlines was somewhat tongue-in-cheek. I don’t care what they look like as long as they keep the beer and sour cream and chive pretzels coming.
It was dreadfully sexist and exactly the sort of comment I make to my wife when no-one else can hear. She does a wonderful mock-affronted expression because she knows I don’t mean it. And believe me, that is not the only shockingly offensive thing we say to each other in private.
If you have children, it’s difficult to imagine any of those things. And it certainly isn’t funny.