Insane Clown Posse ... your thoughts?

Am I getting wooshed left and right? I will put four grand on the fact that no Juggalo has gone to France to learn the intricacies of being a true clown. This also stinks of a “King of the Hil” episode, and I should stop while I’m ahead.

UGH. Why did I even bother to ask? Juggalos don’t want to be clowns. If they did, I might like that culture. Instead they want act like bottom dwellers with paint on their faces. Please prove me wrong, Straight Dope Juggalos. The only one that I have seen bring his face forward admitted to hating most of the music, and not hearing the rest of it. If that’s the case, please explain why you want to be a Juggalo, even though you hate the music. This blows my mind twelve different ways. At least punk rock has cool chains and red tartan plaids and wonderful boots!

I assume you’re referring to me. I don’t hate the music, I just find that the vast majority of what they’ve put out isn’t worth listening to time and time again. But what I do like of theirs I really like because it’s raunchy and funky like a dirty laundry pile. And I don’t want to be a Juggalo, I am one.

I think everyone looks for a complicated explanation of what drives a person to like this group despite their lack of obvious redeeming value. And the answer is too simple: ICP (and the Juggalos by extension) likes being hated. When The Great Milenko was pulled by Disney a day after being released, ICP briefly enjoyed mainstream success and they hated it. Violent J sums it up nicely in the intro to “Juggalo Family”:

And they wanted to know if I would trade ten Juggalos for a hundred mainstream fans. And I said I wouldn’t trade ten Juggalos for a hundred thousand mainstream fans. Ten Juggalos is priceless.

Or from the sampler for The Wraith, Simple and Blunt:

Tell me this muthafucka truly, how you living?
Ever get the urge maybe do a little wig-splittin’?
Ever been the last kid picked for a team?
Ever had muthafuckas come and shit on your dreams?
Do you have ideas and something to say
Only ain’t nobody ever got they ears pointed your way
Ever been fucked with for like this and like that
And go home with crazy thoughts about cuttin’ they neck?
You might find an escape in this band the world hates
‘Cause we been gettin’ shit on homie, we can relate.

DWMarch, what makes you consider yourself a juggalo? On the video I had - mentioned up thread - they described juggalos as fanatics. Juggalos are known for wearing ICP/Psychopathic clothes every single day, having the stickers on their cars, going to every show in the region (even 2 states away) in facepaint, listening to nothing but ICP and other Pyschopathic Records acts, and basically loving every minute of it. You seem like someone who likes their attitude and a couple of their songs.

As they so elegantly put it in Hound Dogs:
Real Juggalos don’t want no picture
They just walk up like “What up ninja?”
After that they give a fuck where I’m headin’
They’re like “Fuck him, we’re looking for neden!”

Or how about The Unveiling?
This ain’t a fuckin’ fan club
It ain’t about makin’ a buck
Don’t buy our fuckin’ action figures bitch
I don’t give a fuck

So who’s a real Juggalo? Someone with all the merch and very uncritical ear or someone who can quote those lyrics from memory?

Besides, I’m defending ICP on the SDMB. That should establish my Juggalo credentials right there!

Well, there’s only one thing for it. The acid test: DWMarch must powerbomb a motherfuckah into thumbtacks in order to prove his Juggalo credentials.

I’ve defended them here, and I’m definitely not a juggalo. I could sit here and quote Ninja or just about any song off their first 4 joker’s cards to you all day, and I’m still not a juggalo.

^ Also not a juggalo. Scared of clowns.

Bozo = Clown

John Wayne Gacy = Not a Clown

Pagliacchi= Down with the clown

Shakes= Juggalo

I was on the same Menatal ward as Violent J, Bitches!

His sister was from the town and he came here on a breakdown… get his clown paint touched up… recoup and deal with the Jugg-a-lin.

I think I also heard that they did a great guide, rating, and revue of Detroit and other US Airport Oriental Massage Parlors and Saunas.

I don’t know very much about them, to be honest, but when I helped with security for a gaming website, every single person who had a “Juggalo” reference in their login name or their profile eventually trolled the site, tried to break security, or just misbehaved. At first I thought it was the same person moving around a lot and changing service providers, before I found out where “Juggalo” came from.

This isn’t to say that all ICP fans are worthless antisocial trash; just that I had a protracted run where every single one I met was.

Apparently, it’s cool to be hated. I guess in the same way poor is cool. Ridiculous, and juvenile.